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John S. Ransom

Kind of weird to comment on your own post? At least to be the first one to do it. But hey it's almost fat thursday or something! everything upside down! Keeping in mind Deleuze's comment on Hume above, now look at this line from Thousand Plateaus:

“The two of us wrote AntiOedipus together. Since each of us was several, there was already quite a crowd. Here we have made use of everything that came within range, what was closest as well as farthest away. We have assigned clever pseudonyms to prevent recognition. Why have we kept our own names? Out of habit, purely out of habit."

Notice the similarity of the repetition of habit in the two works. That's what habits are: repetition of the same.

Jon

"That's what habits are: repetition of the same."

Well, Deleuze argues at length in Difference and Repetition that this is not so. I wrote up some notes about habit in that book here.

John S. Ransom

May I please ask Jon: In what sense, according to you, are habits not a repetition of the same? And: how do you reconcile that with Deleuze's comments about the 'I'?

Let's take one of the quotations from Deleuze that you provide at the link:

"This living present, and with it the whole of organic and psychic life, rests upon habit. [. . .] We must regard habit as the foundation from which all other psychic phenomena derive. [. . .] These thousands of habits of which we are composed--these contractions, contemplations, pretensions, presumptions, satisfactions, fatigues; these variable presents--thus form the basic domain of passive syntheses. [. . .] Selves are larval subjects; the world of passive syntheses constitutes the system of the self, under conditions yet to be determined, but it is the system of a dissolved self." (78)

First let me say: what a great quotation!

Now, if we want to say that there is a difference between following habit at time 'x' and time 'y', even if 'y' is five minutes later than 'x', then on a certain level I would have to agree. Is that what you or Deleuze mean? I can see that point. I might do the very same thing at time 'y', but it might mean something different from what I did at time 'x' despite its superficial similarity. Let's say I "judge someone to be a legitimate leader" from the fact that said leader has emerged from such-and-such womb. And then I judge someone else to be leader, later in time, because that person has emerged from some other womb that is taken to be a legitimate source of leadership. (I'm talking about the legitimatory process in monarchies, for discussion sake.) In a certain sense, the legitimatory logic of the first leader is the same as that of the second leader, even though there's real differences between the two cases -- that is, the womb in the first instance is not the same womb as in the second.

Or am I completely and laughably missing your point? I am open to all possibilites!

Jon

John, I have to be quick, and in any case am currently without my copy of Difference and Repetition. But the whole argument of that book, as I understand it, is to show how constructs such as the "I" (and identity and representation more broadly) are subtended by, or, better, the epiphenomenal products of, processes such as habit whose basis is a repetition that is difference (in) itself.

I.e. rather than a repetition of the same (which would presuppose and be grounded upon identity etc.), always a repetition of the different.

Now, time is very much at issue, but it is habit that constitutes time, not vice versa (as per your suggestion). Habit, for Deleuze, it what constitutes the present, and then by implication precisely the present as a series of units of time passing. Though as soon as we start talking of the past, then we are already beyond habit.

Anyhow, I know that this is not development or explication, but rather the repetition of Deleuzian dogma. I can try to say more later, when reunited with my copy of Deleuze's book. But my point is briefly and basically that the same dogma underwrites the book on Hume--and that dogma states that habit is not repetition of the same.

Keith

Apropos Deleuze's reading of Nietzche: it's the return of the same inasmuch as that same is different.

Relatedly, I'm wondering what there might be to say regarding this when encountering the work of Badiou et all where the claim is made that "the highest task of thought lies in the production of sameness" - given that difference is just simply "what there is".

Thomas McDonald

In Deleuze, I believe, the Same, strictly speaking, is an epiphenomena, the illusion of the identical created out of habitual repetition, whereas Difference is in every case the ontological, the real beneath (beyond?) our perceptual habits.

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