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Eating at Gayatri's
1. This symposium was originally framed as a discussion of the utility or coherence of John Holbo's concept of "Higher Eclecticism", a concept that has, on the one hand, been favourably received by those who are suspicious of "Theory", that is, how "Continental philosophy" gets deployed, primarily, in literature and humanities departments and, on the other hand, rather skeptically by those, such as myself, who are inclined to see this concept as unintentionally operating in the context of the "Cultural Wars" -- that is, an attempt by certain political forces to close avenues of discussion, especially those that have attracted the attention of 'Continental philosophers' and their supporters in the United States. Thus, in a sense, the debate is overdetermined: any questioning of "Theory" is bound to be interpreted as a contribution to the "Cultural Wars" and, thus, political rather than intellectual in orientation.
I'd like to frame my discussion with a passage from a philosopher currently in favour by those who are persuaded by 'Continental philosophy' and who is equally unfavoured by those who are persuaded by 'analytical philosophy'. No, I don't mean Derrida. Rather, I mean Benedict de Spinoza:
But I have devoted enough time to this. The other notions, too, are nothing but modes of imagining whereby the imagination is affected in various ways, and yet the ignorant consider them as important attributes of things because they believe -- as I have said -- that all things were made on their behalf, and they call a thing's nature good or bad, healthy or rotten and corrupt, according to its effect on them. For instance, if the motion communicated to our nervous system by objects presented through our eyes is conducive to our feeling of well-being, the objects which are its cause are said to be beautiful, while the objects which provoke a contrary motion are called ugly. Those things that we sense throught the nose are called fragrant or fetid, through the tongue sweet or bitter, tasty or tasteless, those that we sense by touch are called hard or soft, rough or smooth, and so on. Finally, those that we sense through our ears are said to give forth noise, sound, or harmony, the last of which has driven men to such madness that they used to believe that even God delights in harmony. There are philosophers who have convinced themselves that the motions of the heavens give rise to harmony. All this goes to show that everyone's judgment is a function of the disposition of his brain, or rather, that he mistakes for reality the way his imagination is affected. Hence it is no wonder -- as we should note in passing -- that we find so many controversies arising among men, resulting finally in scepticism. For although human bodies agree in many respects, there are very many differences, and so one man thinks good what another thinks bad; what to one man is well-order, to another is confused; what to one is pleasing, to another is displeasing, and so forth (Ethics, Part I, Appendix).
2. Recently I attended a 'graduate student conference' -- that is, a 'conference' put on by graduate students for graduate students. In addition to the three dozen or so graduate students in attendance, there were three or four faculty members. A poor turn-out on their part, I must say. (One notes, however, that the faculty who turned up were the ones who disproportionately carried weight in the department: in terms of teaching courses, supervising students, and having an active research program.) Readers might wonder why I put 'conference' in scare-quotes. The reason -- and I hope to make this relevant to Spivak soon enough -- is that the 'conference' was organized to emphasize discussion over presentation. Thus, a panel of two people would have no more than ten or fifteen minutes total of presentation and the rest of the hour would be discussion.
During one presentation, which was more or less concerned with epistemology, the question was raised as to how to select a method proper to your research topic. Positions, of course, varied -- there is one true method, count things, do interviews, run off to the archives, etc. The most exciting moment in all of this was when a woman, who teaches qualitative methods, said something to the effect of, "This is all silly. This is exactly what grounded theory is -- the theory emerges from the data." An angry young male graduate student contributed the correct, yet surprising, rejoinder from across the room, "You're naive!".
Order was shortly restored when the senior representative of the eclectic, Alan Hunt, who 'wants to get Marx into bed with Foucault' said something to the effect of, "Well, you choose what is appropriate." To a large extent, I couldn't disagree: this made some sense. If you're interested in the symbolic constitution of The Terror, you don't write up a survey and do some multiple regressions!
Nonetheless, I had a problem: "Alan, exactly what work is 'appropriate' doing here? Isn't it just a placeholder for the discussion as a whole?" I went on to say something to the effect of, "Well, say you go to the grocery store, and you really like oranges, cabbages, prime rib steak, Hungry Man frozen dinners, mint chocolate chip ice cream, and chili in a can. You don't buy all of your favorites, go home, put them in a large pot and start boiling. You'll get something really disgusting."
His reply, of course, was, "Well, that isn't an appropriate recipe."
3. This brings us, then, to Spivak. Dominic, in his contribution, refers Eagleton's assement of Spivak as a consumer in the 'supermarket of ideas'. Dominic glosses Eagleton's assesment in a helpful way: Spivak is "cooking with an incompossible mélange of ingredients." Following the metaphor of food and taste, we might wonder if academic method and style is also, largely, a matter of taste. Or, perhaps, as the question was raised on The Valve, a matter of aesthetics.
If it is a matter of taste, to whose taste is one obliged to orient oneself? Should one prepare a pleasing meal for oneself, or should one prepare a pleasing meal for one's guests -- invited or unexpected included? That is, is Spivak required to cook mushy peas for Eagleton? Or a pig's head for Belle?
How refined is the taste? The taste, that is, of the cook and guests alike? Are we to aim, like Jim the teenager, to make a really great "Extra Value Meal" at McDonald's? Or are we to aim, like Gordon Ramsay, to make a really great foie gras? But, what of those of us who have ethical objections to these meals? On one hand, that the agricultural and economic practices necessary to sustain the "Extra Value Meal" just aren't worth it? Or, on another hand, that eating goose liver is just something that the idle rich could ever think of? Or, on yet another hand, that the mere eating of flesh is wrong? In Eagleton's 'supermarket of ideas,' how do we balance competing aesthetic, intellectual and ethical tastes as they relate to the production of knowledge?
But, enough about the chef. What about the guest? Is the guest required to eat a meal they don't like? Which invitations can the guest decline? Is the guest obliged to enjoy themself? What does the invited guest owe to the hostess?
By Craig | April 18, 2006 in Food and Drink, Spivak | Permalink
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Craig, you're funny. I like this post, and have been mulling over some of this myself as I went into some extra reading of Critique of Postcolonial Reason, where Spivak is at times rife with contradiction, aknowledging her own seduction by, among other things, comme de garcon.
To a certain extent I think that, yes,we are required to eat a meal or two we don't like in order that we might be able to aknowledge our own ignorance and complicities. While it seems to me that Spivak is most often cooking only for herself and some very select invited guests (the "intended reader"), from time to time, she goes out of her way to produce an enjoyable and unexpected meal for the unexpected guest. As for what to owe to Spivak the host, "many thanks, for so many anxieties".
Posted by: Keith | Apr 18, 2006 6:18:39 PM
P.S. While I've not read it, there is this book by de Certeau that might be worth considering.
Posted by: Keith | Apr 18, 2006 6:51:23 PM
For what it's worth, the last time I saw Gayatri, it was in a McDonald's, and she was enthusiastically championing the virtues of the Fillet o' Fish.
Posted by: Jon | Apr 18, 2006 7:16:59 PM
"Are we to aim, like Jim the teenager, to make a really great 'Extra Value Meal'"
Well, that was inevitable, I suppose.
Eagleton, who I remember from what little I read of him impressed me as the modern Procrustes, probably isn't the best person to make this criticism convincingly. But doesn't "appropriateness" in this context come down to disciplinary concerns? Spivak in the case of her "Scattered Speculations" essay was eclectic in her choices from within her discipline, but didn't show much engagement with the discipline she was poaching from outside a narrow range of Marxist sources. If you read her various disclaimers very carefully, she says who she's going to ignore -- but I think that there's a certain problem of scholarship with defining your topic so that you can ignore most contemporary work on it.
Posted by: Rich Puchalsky | Apr 18, 2006 10:21:29 PM
Is anyone going to comment on the text? If not I'll do the gossipy Karatani/Spivak/Kant post, or maybe comment on the text...
Posted by: Amish Lovelock | Apr 18, 2006 10:58:43 PM
Rich: but a discipline isn't itself a unitary field, is it? You couldn't say that, say sociology, is a unitary field in which the question of 'appropriateness' has been settled. For instance, the American Sociological Association used (maybe it's still there?) define the discipline as "the science of society". A tautology of course, because "sociology" already contains "science of sociology" within it. My point is as follows: sociologists cannot even agree (1) if there is such a thing as "society" or "the social" or not and (2) if there is, if it should be the proper object of investigation. This is why I phrased "appropriateness" in terms of the object, regardless of discipline.
Amish: Isn't there a more interesting question than "Will anyone comment on the text?", which is: "Why are people refusing to engange with it?" or "Why are people unable to engage with it?" Perhaps Kotsko was right: the symposium was doomed before it began because no one has any stake in the particular text under consideration.
But, I must say, I think you're doing mild disservice to Pomegrenade's post, which, in my view, dealt with the text in a way that I did not.
Posted by: Craig | Apr 18, 2006 11:09:58 PM
Hey, and I thought I dealt with the text! (I certainly quoted from it...)
Posted by: Jon | Apr 18, 2006 11:53:11 PM
And Rich, you've rather changed your complaint here. By, now, bracketting out the fact that she quotes what you term "a narrow range of Marxist sources," you miss the point that he engagement is less with economics per se than with the theory of value. And the theory of value is, of course, inter alia an eminently Marxist topic now pretty much ignored by neoclassical economists.
Meanwhile, it appears you want to distinguish strictly between aesthetic and economic value. (Who's being the disciplinarian here?) But the two are indeed very much related. For a rather different investigation of how they are mutually imbricated, see John Guillory's excellent Cultural Capital.
"I think that there's a certain problem of scholarship with defining your topic so that you can ignore most contemporary work on it."
I'm not sure exactly what you mean by this, apart from an attempt to be uncharitable by suggesting that Spivak's primary intention ("so that") is to avoid doing the requisite work.
But of course, one attempts to define one's field and one's topic and one's bibliography in ways that are appropriate and illuminating. In traditional disciplinary work, much of this is done for you, and can seem therefore natural. In interdisciplinary work, that's not the case, and one is all the more subject to the kind of disciplining that says "you should have read this, rather than that."
Again, as I said in the comments on the Valve, I hardly think this line of enquiry (such as it is) is very productive. I'd be more interested in hearing more from you on the self-evidence (or otherwise) of Spivak's claims.
Posted by: Jon | Apr 19, 2006 1:22:26 AM
craig writes: "Theory", that is, how "Continental philosophy" gets deployed, primarily, in literature and humanities departments and, on the other hand, rather skeptically by those, such as myself, who are inclined to see this concept as unintentionally operating in the context of the "Cultural Wars" -- that is, an attempt by certain political forces to close avenues of discussion, craig." I'm not sure who you see as trying to close avenues of discussion - the culture warrior Theorists or the culture warrior anti-Theorists. I take it the answer should be: both. Both sides maneuver strategically in this way: attempting to foreclose what are perceived as unwelcome lines of discussion. (This is why no one says: don't you find Culture War tremendously edifying?) I would assume you were laying the blame somewhat more on the anti-Theorists, but it seems to me, at least, that the term is deployed in the first instance by those who are pro-Theory. 'Theory' is not a term, like 'pc', primarily stuck on by enemies. It is a term used by those who are in favor of what it labels. Of course the term is problematic in many ways, but - since it is in fact a label that is used positively by those who 'do Theory' - it doesn't seem right to blame critics just for taking up a problematic term. (This sort of thing gets to be like debating 'neocons'. The neocons use the term themselves, but get very sensitive when others call them by a name that, in fact, they answer to. This gets rather tedious.)
As to 'unintentionally operating in the context of the Culture Wars': here we have an ambiguity. Certainly no critic of Theory, or defender, is operating UNAWARES in the context of Culture War. How could you miss it? Every time I write a post about Theory I am aware that it will be read as a dispatch from the Culture War front. That is to say: every time I write about Theory, I do so in complete confidence that I will be misread by some people in certain predictable ways. But of course there is no getting people to stop hearing every contribution to the discussion in those terms. So here we are.
This won't be accepted on my say-so, but I think it is right to say: Theory = left. There is no such thing as non-left Theory, for various cultural reasons. (Although, of course, there are some non-leftists in the Theory ancestor gallery.) But critics of Theory are not correlated with any point on the political compass. The secure inferences about political affiliations one can make, knowing just that someone is anti-Theory are: zero. There is of course a heavy contingent of conservative journalistic mockers of Theory, which is essentially reflexive anti-leftism. But these are not really the interesting critics of Theory. If you want to throw a rock and hit an interesting critic of Theory, DON'T aim at its conservative critics, because they are more likely to be engaging in pure partisan polemical shin-kicking.
The Spinoza case is interesting. Of course he is a major modern European philosopher and is standardly studied and well-known and all that. I'm not sure why you regard him as 'unfavoured' by analytic philosophers. Quite the opposite, I should think. He is set up proudly in the ancestor gallery. But it is true that his thought, personality and politics have affinities with post-Hegelian continental philosophy that make him ripe for appropriation by those with little in common with analytic philosophy.
Regarding food metaphors: one thing that is interesting is that metaphors of 'literature as fine wine' - 'the taste on the tongue' - tend to be branded as naive. Students should get back to tasting literature itself, rather than filtering it through this theory. This is regarding as appallingly bad epistemology, among other things. But I don't see that this wine metaphor is any more inherently naive or suspect than - who was it now? have to check my notes - who described 'Theory' as 'gumbo'. There is no disputing taste in food metaphors, perhaps.
Regarding statements like 'theory emerges from the data'. I don't think it is in fact correct to brand this sort of view as naive. Or if it is, then those who say that 'theory doesn't emerge from the data' ought to be prepared to be branded as naive as well. What both views are is oversimple. But it is reasonable to expect that anyone who utters a single short sentence like this probably knows that the short sentence isn't perfectly adequate unto the subject. So pointing out that the view is oversimple is probably not to the point.
Posted by: jholbo | Apr 19, 2006 2:14:07 AM
"But I don't see that this wine metaphor is any more inherently naive or suspect than - who was it now? have to check my notes - who described 'Theory' as 'gumbo'. There is no disputing taste in food metaphors, perhaps."
Talking about wine, and wine tasting, as a metaphor for consumption surely involves the metaphor in an economy about the very value of particular wines, the fact that there exist 'cheap' wines, 'superb' wines, etc -- not to mention the so-called 'developed' palate as a particular signifier of class, cosmopolitanism, development, civilisation, and so on. Gumbo works in an entirely different economy of value. But not one, I think, premised on the ability of the consumer to spend large amounts of money on a long-term basis in order to develop the proper taste for it.
Ie, refusing to talk about content, and circulation, under the guise of judging a work purely on its 'aesthetics', obscures the economies at work in the production of those aesthetics. Quelle surprise!
Do let me know if you come across any gumbo appreciation societies, and I'll revise my judgment.
Posted by: az | Apr 19, 2006 3:05:41 AM
Jon, you did, you're right. Craig, I guess...
Posted by: Amish Lovelock | Apr 19, 2006 3:59:50 AM
Sorry, az, I thought what I was getting at was obvious enough but perhaps I should have been clearer. Obviously if someone urges appreciation of 'the taste on the tongue', then the rhetorically ready-to-hand counter-move is to portray this person as a retrograde snob. You wrong-foot them on the class question. (It writes itself.) Likewise, if you align 'theory' with 'gumbo', that affords certain connotations and hints of socioeconomically favorable association. They're the wine people - elitists; we're the earthy, authentic gumbo people - egalitarians. It's a David Brooks column waiting to happen. That's the whole problem (I would say). Are you suggesting that it's a good thing to transmogrify the dispute into the intellectual equivalent of a David Brooks column? If so, for pity's sake, why?
Also, the whole thing is further messed up by a conflation of the 'wine is for elitists' trope with the 'thinking literature is like wine is an epistemological mistake' trope.
Posted by: jholbo | Apr 19, 2006 5:21:59 AM
Jon: "And Rich, you've rather changed your complaint here. By, now, bracketting out the fact that she quotes what you term "a narrow range of Marxist sources," you miss the point that he engagement is less with economics per se than with the theory of value. And the theory of value is, of course, inter alia an eminently Marxist topic now pretty much ignored by neoclassical economists."
I really don't think that you can define the theory of value as no longer part of general economics simply because it's now pretty much subsumed into the concept of marginal utility (which is what I'd say it is, rather than "ignored"). That would be like saying that that the cosmological constant was no longer part of astrophysics after Einstein dropped it. It's an idea that still addresses the major problems of the discipline from which it came, some people still take it seriously, and you never know when it's going to make a comeback.
"Meanwhile, it appears you want to distinguish strictly between aesthetic and economic value."
I haven't read John Guillory's book, and will probably not get a chance to. I don't think that there's no connection between aesthetic and economic value of texts. But I do think it's odd for Spivak to refer to literary value in the context of an examination of the *labor* theory of value, though. Don't you? I don't know of anyone who investigates writer biographies to say, aha, writer A spent 2 years writing her novel while writer B spent 1 year on hers, therefore writer A's book is twice as valuable as B's. Spivak is talking about canon formation in that part of her essay, after all.
"Again, as I said in the comments on the Valve, I hardly think this line of enquiry (such as it is) is very productive. I'd be more interested in hearing more from you on the self-evidence (or otherwise) of Spivak's claims."
That's an interesting request. In order to expand on the general idea that I've already written, I'd have to first specify what her claims are, then judge how self-evident they are (presumably by 1985 standards; it would be unfair to say that she wrote self-evident claims if they were self-evident now but not then). I suspect that the reason that you want me to do this is to get a list of claims to shoot at. Is that right? That seems to be the subtext of the "why hasn't anyone addressed the text?" complaints -- that no one wants to be first to commit to an opinion on what the essay actually says.
If I have time later today, I'll give it a try.
Posted by: Rich Puchalsky | Apr 19, 2006 10:00:57 AM
"I suspect that the reason that you want me to do this is to get a list of claims to shoot at. Is that right? That seems to be the subtext of the "why hasn't anyone addressed the text?" complaints -- that no one wants to be first to commit to an opinion on what the essay actually says."
Actually, no. Those who have read my contribution will recall that I myself made so bold as to offer a précis of what I called the "nub" of the text. (Others can disagree as to whether I'm right, of course.) I agreed with what you said elsewhere, that in fact this essay is not so very difficult to understand. (It is, however, a little "scattered.")
Posted by: Jon | Apr 19, 2006 10:47:01 AM
OK, Jon, I'll address your "nub" précis then, back in its own comment box. (I think that it somewhat unduly boils down the essay to a single focus, removing mention of the scattered claims. But I'm glad to not make a list of them.)
Posted by: Rich Puchalsky | Apr 19, 2006 12:06:32 PM
Yeah, sure my précis was reductive--as all such are, more or less. I jut thought it rather bizarre that you claimed "no one wants to be first to commit to an opinion on what the essay actually says."
Posted by: Jon | Apr 19, 2006 12:41:30 PM
Not to dismiss your other comments, John, but I want to turn to your comment on Spinoza. Sure, Spinoza is located in the history of philosophy (and impoverished field within analytic philosophy, however) and is no doubt that taught to all second or third year philosophy students in "Rationalism" or "Descartes, Spinoza, Leibniz" or whatever courses. The point about Spinoza is that insofar as analytic philosophy is concerned, Spinoza's place is in the historical development of the discipline occupying an important position in the early modern period. He rarely figures as anything but. Serious analytical philosophers working on Spinoza could be counted on less than one hand. And those who do work on Spinoza are primarily concerned with rendering his system logically coherent given subsequent developments in philosophy -- the result, being, an unnecessarily prolonged and obscure debate over whether Part V should be read or not.
Hardly the work of great or important philosophical work! This is part time, interest driven work -- people who found the Ethics interesting and kept reading it. Spinoza is, at best, a cottage industry in analytic philosophy.
Contemporary 'continental' philosophy, however, places Spinoza at its center. We are, literally, in the midst of a Spinoza renaisance. Here, Spinoza isn't used as a curiousity, but as a foundational thinker and as a point of departure.
Put another way, all of the important studies -- and deployments -- of Spinoza in the past hundred years have been 'continental' in origin. Which, of course, is really strange: all of this is collapsed into a single chapter in the Cambridge Companion...
Posted by: Craig | Apr 19, 2006 5:59:17 PM
Re: the taste/Theory thing. It might be useful to make a distinction between the 'hard' and 'soft' infrastructures of taste. Firstly, a taste for certain ideas over others is not equivalent to a taste for certain recipes or foods over others. The taste for ideas has different measures of hard and soft infrastructure, eg soft - discussion of ideas, 'thinkability', hard - books/texts that discuss ideas, technical utility. the point I am getting at is taste is hardwired into out taste buds, sure things can be an 'aquired taste', but what is aquired is less the taste of the thing and more the ability to appreciate it in certain ways. Am I misreading 'taste'? Surely it refers to the sociological construct of a category of interest or some such thing? i would rather call this interest the capacity for appreciation (ooh very spinozist). That is, there is an affective response to the arrangement of food (gag, this is inedible) or arrangement ideas (gag, this is unthinkable) and a capacity to appreciate this affective response (whatever it is) and the conditioned social response to the response. I gag at discussions of 'Theory' because I have no stomach for it (hard infrastructure) and I have not been conditioned in a North American university context to respond to my lack-of-stomach (soft infrastructure). 'Theory work' reads as the blatant work of the academic cultural industry not the academic scholarly apparatus.
Spivak's footnoted quote from A Thousand Plateaus is very important for she is signalling her understanding that the discontinuities of the book-assemblage are potentialities. Without taking into account this virtual dimension of complex arrangements of affects (of food/ideas) then all a critic has to go on are stultifying equations of equivalence between texts. If this was to be imagined as a singular plane then one might think of it as a supermarket of ideas. (perhaps with the internet this becomes the megamart of ideas, you know one of those eyesores on the fringe of urbanity, but in the heart of mundanity, which you need to drive to, and which sells 3 kg breakfast cereal boxes.)
If you are still following me, then my point is that although there is a similar 'diagram' of engagement and circulation of the affects of food/ideas, this does not mean it _is_ the same engagement or circulation. Each has to be dissected according to the 'event' to which it pertains.
Posted by: Glen | Apr 19, 2006 11:09:08 PM
hi Craig,
Great post. But...
Perhaps a good step toward Culture War armistice might be to be a bit more nuanced with terms, allowing for more differences on the other side.
My sense is the same as yours - analytic philosophers do a lot less history of philosophy than continental philosophers. But, I'm not convinced that anglo-american philosophy is reducible to analytic philosophers (certainly not in a narrow sense) and continentals, and the reduction doesn't help anyone. The charge like "they don't take Spinoza seriously" also, like the Culture War, cuts both ways - how many continentals are doing work on Davidson? Is that a legitimate exclusion?
Both terms - analytic vs continental - are reductive, but I think analytic is worse. Continental philosophy is from the European continent (though most of the time it really means French and German - not many folks do work on Vico or Unamuno, etc). Analytic philosophy is the name for a specific type of anglo-american philosophy (more often pilloried than read in other humanities programs, I think) the state of which is controversial depending on who one asks, and is also taken as the name for anglo-american philosophy as such. Many of us would laugh at folks who would (do) call Foucault and Deleuze 'deconstructionists', why's the same misapplied broad brush stroke okay when our team does it?
Sorry to rant. Bit into something I'm allergic to.
best,
Nate
Posted by: Nate | Apr 19, 2006 11:53:21 PM
Nate, you're point is well taken. My first response would be similar to those proposed at The Weblog: Zizek, for instance, often draws upon analytic sources. And his attempt to use analytic sources is serious. At least insofar as Zizek is able to be serious. While I may not particularly like what they write, Charles Taylor and Ian Hacking stick out as two people from the Anglo-American tradition who have seriously attempted to bridge the divide between the analytical and the continental. (Recall: Hacking became famous as a logician before pursuing more 'Foucauldian' work.) I'd contrast these two with someone like Sheldon Wolin who can take Tocqueville very seriously and write a very good book on him, but who also goes out of his way to be a jackass when reading contemporary continental thought. (I'm thinking of his idiotic piece of Foucault.)
Returning to the issue of Spinoza -- a more narrow and possibly less important point -- I'll defend vigorously the position that analytic philosophy does not take Spinoza seriously. By that I mean analytic approaches to Spinoza are largely 'scholastic' -- for instance, Bennett or Donagan.
Posted by: Craig | Apr 20, 2006 12:12:08 AM
"Are you suggesting that it's a good thing to transmogrify the dispute into the intellectual equivalent of a David Brooks column? If so, for pity's sake, why?"
No, not at all. I was trying to make a larger point about your engagement with Spivak purely on an aesthetic level, and maybe I stretched the food metaphor beyond its capacity. I wasn't aligning 'theory' with gumbo, either -- at least not in the way you imply. So let me rephrase more comprehensively. What I understand gumbo to be 'about' there does not index authenticity or earthiness per se, so much as the combination of seemingly disparate ingredients in a pretty mushy soup, maybe hybridised, a la Eagleton's criticism.
In this sense I think 'gumbo', which elsewhere you've sort of equated with eclecticism and kitsch, has a reclamative potential. Particularly in a post/neocolonial hybridised context, where all the Anglos may complain incessantly about one's 'weird food', or alternatively fetishise its weird style, while simultaneously drawing subtle attention to the 'mistakes' in the other's performance of elements of so-called 'civilised' or 'universal' style/etiquette. (Or, one's reading of Marx.) That is to say, why not start thinking about the strategic use of 'incomprehensibility' at work in that essay, and other Spivak?
Posted by: az | Apr 20, 2006 1:25:03 AM
Craig,
Agreed re: analytic philosophy not doing Spinoza. Defined narrowly, though, analytic philosophers do very little history of philosophy at all, right? I'd agree, though, that analytic philosophers, defined more broadly (anglo-american philosophers, of the not explicitly contintal stripe), also don't do Spinoza. Generally. But few continentals do Davidson, who, while not perhaps a Spinoza, is a really important and fascinating philosopher. Neither absence seems, to my mind, to necessarily indicate any ill will nor any inability to do worthwhile good work with what they do work on.
That said, there clearly are annoying and reductive analytic/anglo-american philosophers who dismiss scads of material undeservedly. But the same goes for some continental philosophy folks, and some theory folks. The problem there, though, is not analytic/anglo-american philosophers, continental philosophers, or theorists. The problem is dismissiveness, which is a bigger problem than simple assholery when it's linked to defending institutional power and patterns in institutional behavior.
Just for kicks, who else'd go on that list...?
Cavell? Danto? Rorty for sure. Cornel West. Richard Schusterman. At one point, Alisdair McIntyre (sp?). Richard Bernstein.
From the other side of the pond, Habermas, Appel, Manfred Frank, Andrew Bowie. Lyotard, I'm told, at least at one point.
best,
Nate
Posted by: Nate | Apr 20, 2006 2:25:02 AM
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