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Your episteme is my abstraction, and we'll keep it
Nobody is invested here, it is said. Nobody wants to risk taking a firm stand for Spivak. As Terry Eagleton once announced, in post-colonial studies this dilemma is itself practically a cliché. One must renounce just in order to belong (meanwhile "individualization belies a collective lifestyle," Ulrich Beck has muttered). Very well though, let me play the role, or play at the role, at least (we are all role players here, to some degree, as everyone surely knows; bloggers are not serious). There is a sort of enviable gravity to the sacrificial victim, after all. Still, I've very little genuine desire to play at being, as Eagleton also gibes, "that ultimate source of embarrassment, [the] devoted acolyte."
Nevertheless. Here's something I think is pretty fucking great. I found it, just now, using Google. It's about painting, about a condition of language even, as painting, and it comes toward the end of a rather short and good, year-old essay by Aveek Sen:
It is, therefore, in the necessary speechlessness of painting, its circumvention of language (though not of signification), that Chandana sought a different kind of resolution to the problem of representation. Her struggle was to find a silence that would do justice to another woman’s silence, and then to let these two silences create a presence that would be proxy as well as portrait. The silence of her painting is more absolute than reticence for reticence (“I know, but I choose not to speak”) comes on its own high horse. But this is the silence of what the work cannot say, the assertion of an incapacity, a negative capability. “We exist on different planes,” Chandana would say about herself and Shondhadi. But she kept trying to describe to me the feel of the thickness and softness of pigments as the brush pressed them, layer upon layer, over the stretched, but yielding canvass. That feel is, for her, the sensual, even sexual, correlative of what she called “the merging of existences” in the making of a picture — existences that otherwise must remain painfully and awfully apart...
Spivak has often used the term "persistent critique" as a way of explaining 'deconstruction' to (notoriously) overworked and underpaid, impatient grad students. Here's how it appears in print (or at least in the version of an interview, more precisely that which is published in The Spivak Reader):
Deconstruction does not say there is no subject, there is no truth, there is no history. It simply questions the privileging of identity so that someone is believed to have the truth. It is not the exposure of error. It is constantly and persistently looking into how truths are produced. That's why deconstruction doesn't say logocentrism is a pathology, or metaphysical enclosures are something you can escape. Deconstruction, if one wants a formula is, among other things, a persistent critique of what one cannot not want. And in that sense, yes, it's right there at the beginning.
The double negative would seem rather crucial. This would seem to imply, among other things, that we are always-already (AA) alienated, and not just by Capital (though Eagleton will object), but also within language itself, for instance. I happen to agree.
Spivak's "style" could probably be described in many ways, some more entertaining or charitable, or ever negatively capable than others. (Regarding which, tell me dear reader, do you really prefer the Keats or the Harpers)? Let us conjure the image of devout Spivakians swaying, to the cadence of her prose, a veritable fog bank issuing from her sacred mouth and folding itself over the folded hands of the audience, &c. It all sounds very mystical, this suspension of critical felicity, if you like that sort of thing.
This is a false reading, of course, but one with which Spivak does sometimes flirt, it seems to me (cf. flirtation vs. seduction, in various feminist readings of Derrida). She's practically famous for these pithy, oxymoronic fragments, or near-aphorisms, qualifications often posing as simplistic reversals, such as "productive bafflement," and so on. The point she is attempting to make, consistently I believe, is however serious. And she's been nothing if not generous in trying to explain it.
Without excusing anything, I wonder, is there any sense in speaking, albeit, or at least in my case, wistfully, of a reading that is beyond charitable, or charitable nearly to a fault? To a point where charity may clear a space for something other than charity, as patronizing tolerance? That suspends its judgment of each sentence, not in the service of any pure poetic, sublime, or High Romantic ideal, but rather in order to grant the other every possible chance of freedom, in its fundamental mystery to oneself; to grant the other, if only provisionally, every imaginable benefit of the doubt? Perhaps these are not all the same thing, you will object (really, it's ok; we're just painting here).
A serious question, it seems to me, is whether some negative capability (of another sort than Keats himself may not have glimpsed entirely) isn't required as a gesture of good faith that necessarily gets the relation–any relation–going.
One might also consider, attempting to be as charitable as possible (and assuming there is some value in so doing), that the question of styles (in the plural, of course), and of rhetoric, are not simply mundane.
In any case John singles out this passage, from "Scattered Speculations" (what a horrid title):
In closing, I will invoke the very threshold, the second paragraph of this essay, where I write: "The ‘idealist’ and the ‘materialist’ are both exclusive predications." All predications are exclusive and thus operate on the metonymic principle of a part standing for the putative whole: "As soon as one retains only a predicate of the circle (for example, return to the point of departure, closing off the circuit), its signification is put into the position of a trope, of metonymy if not metaphor" [Derrida, "White Mythology" 264]. In this sense, the "idealist" and the "materialist" predications of the subject are metonyms of the subject.
Without getting hung up on the "all predications are exclusive" bit (seemingly she means this in a certain sense), one could probably do worse than begin with Christopher Norris (forgive me, these buffering blockquotes are certainly death to blog, but Spivak cites "White Mythology" in her essay, so then why not briefly revisit it, via Norris):
Thus Derrida is not for one moment suggesting that just because Aristotle has recourse to metaphor - or to metaphor-related notions like resemblance, mimesis, the 'perception of similarity', etc. - at crucial points in his argument, therefore his entire ontology and epistemology (along with his logic, metaphysics, and conception of enquiry in the natural or physical sciences) comes down to nothing more than a series of figural tropes and substitutions, indifferent with regard to their truth-content or capacity for conceptual elucidation and critique. Nor is he committed to the absurd view that truth and reality just are what we make of them according to this or that favoured rhetoric, language-game, discourse, vocabulary, or whatever. Such a doctrine could be extracted from 'White Mythology' only by ignoring those many passages - among them the sections on Aristotle, Canguilhem, and Bachelard - that offer a precise and detailed account of the critical epistemology of metaphor and its role in the process of scientific knowledge-production. [...]
[A]gain, we shall mistake Derrida's purpose - or (not to beg the intentionalist question) the logic of his argument in 'White Mythology' - if we read such passages as opening the way to a wholesale metaphorization of philosophy, or a levelling of the metaphor/concept distinction that would view it as merely a symptomatic instance of this drive for the 'reappropriation' of metaphor by the philosophic will-to-truth. For there could then be no accounting for that other (often strongly counter-intuitive) process of conceptual 'rectification' that enables scientific metaphors, models, and analogies to bring about genuine advances in our knowledge of physical objects, processes, and events. Empson makes the point succinctly when he remarks - in a review of E.A. Burtt's book The Metaphysical Foundations of Modern Science - that 'it is unsafe to explain discovery in terms of a man's intellectual preconceptions, because the act of discovery is precisely that of stepping outside preconceptions
Well I thought that was pretty interesting. It's not often Derrida and Empson get together in the same essay.
It is also rather crucial, I think, to wager the strong possibility that Spivak, like Derrida, is aligned more on the "side" of The Enlightenment than "against" it. That is, if we are going to allow this word to breath, perhaps, and to have a future. Of course this demands to be qualified (and dare one say it, complicated), but it's a self-positioning that deserves to be taken seriously. To wit:
Secularism is not an episteme...In fact the two eighteenth century ideas that have served us so well, the separation of church and state and also the privatization of religion, that served us so well, are in fact not working for this violent world today. That does not mean that we throw secularism away. That means that we do not mistake secularism for an episteme. Secularism is an impoverished, abstract system that must be protected as such. Teaching tolerance is not secularism (teaching tolerance is good), yet there are many (don't teach intolerance!)...but there are many, many examples which would show that you cannot tolerate without non-de-transcendentalizing the religion within which you stand. Everything else is de-transcendentalized and tolerated...
The person who doesn't at all believe in religion as a system of belief (which is me) are not, is not necessarily tolerant; nothing matters...so what would you be tolerant of? It's a non-problem. I mean, you're respectful of cultural differences systems, etc. because it's a good thing to be, and you like literature, you treasure the imagination and imaginative constructs, but on the other hand, it's not tolerance.
And I'm not taking myself as an example. In fact the privatization of religion works fine for me. The separation of church and state works fine for me, because I'm a certain kind of class product. But to think that it is by imposing what works for me, that I'm going to win a secular world...I think I would be completely blind. So in that context, the idea of producing a possibility where secularism is protected as small r-reason as our ally, within (again the agent-subject problem) within a much richer acknowledgment of the imagination...
I can't epand on this now, but... I go to Kant not because I think Modernity began with the Enlightenment. I go to Kant because Kant's sense of the public sphere is not based on a separation of public and private, and also...here, in his very late work, he actually saw that some de-transcendentalization had to take place in order for a real secularism to work, and he actually made grace itself into the effective and effect....
Kant had problems, he thought Christianity was the best religion (although he was trying to be very tolerant...and that's the problem with being tolerant)...Christianity was the best religion, both historically and in its message, and the best world would be patriarchal, those are mistakes, but nonetheless...
I must say, I like Spivak's style, especially in person. Perhaps she takes herself too seriously, at times (who doesn't). Less a mechanical exercise of privilege, though, her "style" seems to me, most charitably, a practice of persistent and uncompromising 'wonder', that is to say above all, a wonder at this impure silence conditioning relations, a silence, as Aveek ventures, of what the work (which is to say, the work of representation) "cannot say."
Once you grant some privilege to gathering and not to dissociating then you leave no room for the other, for the radical otherness of the other, for the radical similarity of the other. I think that separation, dissociation is not an obstacle to society or to community, it is the condition.
-JD
By Matt | April 19, 2006 in Derrida, Specious Rhetorical Strategies, Spivak | Permalink
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Matt,
The passage from the Spivak lecture you quoted caught my eye too, though I'm not 100% confident I understand what she's saying.
I'm reading the reference to secularism as an ally, "within the richer acknowledgment of the imagination" as a kind of suggestion that secularism can only work if people orient their imaginative faculties (whether in art or religion itself) to the development of a modern outlook (or episteme).
If that is what she's saying, the danger is that whole swaths of the world (including possibly the U.S. itself in the near future) are in essence in danger of losing their secularity as the popular will seems to want to reject it.
On the question of secularity in particular I often want to insist on reason with a capital R as my ally.
There are still some puzzling bits. I don't understand the earlier paragraph where she mentions "non-de-transcendentalizing" religion (and why she didn't just say "without transcendentalizing"). And I don't know what the "subject-agent problem" refers to.
Any thoughts?
Posted by: Amardeep | Apr 19, 2006 5:14:49 PM
Thanks Amardeep,
Fwiw, I think Spivak is pretty clear that she's against treating secularism as an episteme in any non-abstracted sense. Her full reasons for this may be somewhat less clear, but maybe someone else has a better sense. Surely Kant, or a certain Kant (not to be confused with cant) may have something to do with it.
On one level, I might agree we are in such danger, though I wonder if one shouldn't be wary of conflating the modern with the Popular?
I'm not certain what you mean by reason with a capital R, so will hold off on an opinion for now, on whether or not Spivak is against it.
I do *think* she deserves to be taken at her word, as suggesting that secularism must be understood and defended as an abstraction, perhaps precisely because, as Derrida, reading Scholem, might have entertained: "there is no real secularization...what one lightly calls "secularization" does not take place." That is, in Sholem's wonderful provocation: "One believes that language has been secularized, that its apocalyptic thorn has been pulled out. But this is surely not true; this secularization of language is only a façon de parler, a ready-made phrase." (qtd.in Derrida, "The Eyes of Language")
Sholem treats the relation between sacred language and secular language as a rhetoical effect (and "at the bottom of the abyss–there is only sacred language"). So some relation to the sacred is inevitable, though Derrida for one will of course trouble the definition. Rather a lot, as usual.
(To be summarily blunt, through a painstakingly close reading of Scholem's apocalypticism, Derrida seeks to chart and steer a course away from the apocalypse.)
On the second question, the point of the double negative, as I understand it, is that of positing a condition of being as always already (AA) in relation, more specifically as alientated and thus also de-transcendentalized, to some degree (?). Therefore to just say "transcendentalizing" would be to risk ignoring, or at least trivializing, the way in which the concept itself is already bound up in this relation, specifically that of (standing within) a religion (or as others would suggest religions, always in the plural). (In other words, she's refusing the a priori transcendentalism of religion). And in so doing, she may even be holding out for a stronger transcendentalism, one might argue.
In short though, she wants to redeem secularism from the (Christian, esp. Catholic) concept of tolerance. Again, like that other guy, who's argument is indeed fairly compelling.
Posted by: Matt | Apr 19, 2006 6:49:00 PM
Thanks for your response.
In short though, she wants to redeem secularism from the (Christian, esp. Catholic) concept of tolerance.
That sounds nice. And it actually reminds me of the kind of move Zizek frequently makes: the ideals of liberalism can only be saved from goopy liberal ideas (like "tolerance").
But I don't think that the crisis in global secularism is really about tolerance. Rather, it's about protecting human rights within a certain kind of political framework. Freedom of speech (at issue recently with the Danish cartoons of the Prophet Muhammed) isn't really about tolerance. The right to publish those cartoons is in some sense the opposite of tolerance: one in fact has to protect the intolerant from the people who are trying to firebomb their offices.
Without antagonism or hostility, I must say that I simply don't understand your explanation of her use of the word "non-de-transcendentalize." But thanks anyway.
Posted by: Amardeep | Apr 19, 2006 11:21:02 PM
Thanks Amardeep.
Are you saying Derrida just "sounds nice"?
Posted by: Matt | Apr 19, 2006 11:40:45 PM
In any case. I suspect he would have agreed with you in a general sense about human rights (although these concepts themselves are always changing).
And yes, Zizek gets a lot of stuff from Derrida, as is well known.
Posted by: Matt | Apr 20, 2006 12:16:33 AM
Hi Matt,
Love that post because you so unreservedly say that you like Spivak’s style, while at the same time you have the analyses and arguments to validate your claim. I happen to agree. Yes she writes difficult, but it’s a difficulty of the utmost sincerity (if ever there was such an affect): this is a difficulty that is thinking and breaking ground, and that is always hard. (I remember reading Stein who recounts Picasso’s complaints that the paintings by Braque had more success than his own during their first exhibition together with cubist painting (that was in 1913, I believe): he said, well, of course they like him better, after all, I had to do the hard work, the monstrous act of creating something new, and that always looks frightening and horrific, and then all Braque had to do is take the new and extract the monstrous from it to make it into something nice and colorful, goddamn! – It’s like that with Spivak I guess).
Bram
P.S. I do prefer Keats, sorry.
Posted by: Bram | Apr 20, 2006 3:35:23 AM
This is kind of a perpendicular remark to the main emphasis of this entry--and I like your post and even myself have a kind of difficult-to-articulate liking for Spivak even when I find what I understand of her position largely incompatible with my own view of things.
I think some of the passages you cite here substantially illustrate the frustration that Spivak (and Derrida and some other Derrideans) provoke in many readers. It's not that they are difficult (though they are); it's that there is a structure to their claims that utterly reflects certain kinds of engagement.
It's most acutely visible in the perpectual didactic negation that manifests in much of Spivak's writing. "Deconstruction does not say"; "Secularism is not an episteme"; "Derrida is not suggesting". These are statements which forbid a certain interpretation or received understanding; they're not dialogic openings to a field of contentious interpretation. They're flat-out statements that certain common claims are *wrong*. But neither do they uphold the converse claims ("Derrida is saying", "Deconstruction is", "Secularism is") in any comparably straightforward or didactic way.
Look at what often follows those negations. Take the passage, "Deconstruction does not say there is no there is no subject, there is no truth, there is no history". So does that mean that deconstruction DOES say that there are subjects, that there is truth, that there is history? What does it say about the subjects, truths and histories which are? What is deconstructive truth? The deconstructive subject? A deconstructive history? In practice, we rarely get to that point, instead perpetually returning to the recitation of didactic negations, always on the cusp of the affirmative description of what deconstruction should produce if not negation and disavowel.
What we see next in that passage is that deconstruction disallows one mode of claim to truth, that which rests in identity. Ok. But deconstruction is "not the exposure of error". No, contrarily, it is "looking into" how truths are produced. But what does that mean? To look into the production of truth, but never to claim exposure of error? What does that look like? If truths depend on their surface self-presentation, doesn't "looking into" them have the effect of "exposing error"? Don't those who operate from those truths take such an intervention as the "exposure of error"? Can deconstruction claim innocence if that is in fact the consequence of its "looking into" truth?
And so on. I would completely agree that what I'm pointing to here is not an accident nor an oversight: that this is the critical and epistemological method that Spivak and some other Derrideans propose. I can even see the value or generativity of it, both in the realpolitik of intellectual work and even in producing new ways of reading and intervening. But I also find it frustrating, coy and sterile in many respects. It's a coat of teflon over the critical enterprise, designed to repel all breaches of its own self-granted privileges.
Posted by: Timothy Burke | Apr 20, 2006 10:22:35 AM
(This comment removed at the commenter's own suggestion.)
Posted by: | Apr 20, 2006 6:35:00 PM
http://northanger.livejournal.com/212926.html
Posted by: | Apr 21, 2006 1:12:48 PM
Bram,
oh well.
Posted by: Matt | Apr 21, 2006 2:01:50 PM
Something else to consider, as maybe apropos re secularism:
from 'The Purloined Marx', Jameson's 1995 essay on Specters of Marx:
Capitalism... as in the historical narrative we have inherited from the triumphant bourgeoisie and the great bourgeois revolutions, is the first social form to have eliminated religion as such and to have entered on the purely secular vocation of human life and human society. Yet according to Marx, religion knows an immediate 'return of the repressed' at the very moment of the coming into being of such a secular society, which, imagining it has done away with the sacred, then at once unconsciously sets itself in pursuit of the 'fetishism of commodities'. The incoherence is resolved if only we understand that a truly secular society is yet to come, lies in the future...
Of course that's a whole 'nother debate.
Posted by: Matt | Apr 21, 2006 2:27:07 PM
Matt - methinks with Spivak there's the sense of never being able to fully or completely analogize the "materialist" and "idealist" predications, just as the materialist theory of value can never be fully realized - there must always be a splitting, a binarization with which to advance the argument (as she says as much in the video lecture).
In that sense, I like the way you end this post, and there is a text - "Communism as Separation" - by Alberto Toscano in Think Again (which Jodi it seems is trying to "cook up" for symposification) that might be of interest here.
Posted by: Keith | Apr 21, 2006 2:28:17 PM
Thanks for the Empson quote, Matt. I second Timothy Burke's reaction, mostly. Just to add a little bit: I don't think that thinking of Spivak and Derrida as Enightenment thinkers is very enlightening, unless you just want to say that the counter-Enlightenment is part of the Enlightenment - which, of course, it is. Otherwise it wouldn't have Enlightenment in the name. But this is a subject for another day, and not really a comment box. But I guess I can put it in a question: do you think it makes sense to think in terms of Enlightenment/counter-Enlightenment - with, say, Kant on one side and Schlegel on the other; and you want to say that, say, Derrida and Spivak are on Kant's side, over and against Schlegel? (To me that seems absurd. But perhaps this isn't what you mean to suggest.)
Sorry for the belated arrival in your comment box. But, as they say, I had a plane to catch.
Posted by: jholbo | Apr 23, 2006 12:54:22 PM
Matt - methinks with Spivak there's the sense of never being able to fully or completely analogize the "materialist" and "idealist" predications, just as the materialist theory of value can never be fully realized
If by "analogize" and "realize" you mean something like determine in a dialectic that would remain metaphysical, I agree.
Funny you should mention teflon, Mr. Burke, as I was just this morning reading Derrida's first book, on Husserl. You know the one?
John, at this point I'm sure all I can do is refer you to Derrida's own writings, particularly on Kant. Thanks for stopping by. (In between flights was it? Never touch the stuff. Bicycles are definitely the way to go.)
Posted by: Matt | Apr 23, 2006 7:48:15 PM
Which writings do you have in mind, Matt? My reading of Derrida is hardly comprehensive, though I know several bits quite well. None of them happen to be about Kant. In a general sort of way, Kant critiques reason, and Derrida critiques reason. But that only gets us as far as counter-Enlightenment, I suspect. I much prefer bicycles myself but they are impractical for trans-oceanic purposes, sadly.
Posted by: jholbo | Apr 23, 2006 8:14:15 PM
John,
Well in addition to Borradori's book, and the texts on cosmopolitanism and forgiveness, you might try "Interpretations at War: Kant, the Jew, the German" in Acts of Religion, ed. Anidjar. Derrida is critical of Kant, as may be expected, in rather specific ways, not least of all toward the end of Politics of Friendship.
Posted by: Matt | Apr 23, 2006 8:41:08 PM
This may not be directly related. Recently the great philosopher-blogger Majikthise put forth a sort of, well, banal and obvious distinction: "...literary texts are in fact more like paintings and less like the single-sentence examples that most analytic philosophers of language like to model."
But then I thought, when one considers that the boundaries demarcating literature and philosophy were beginning to crumble back even before the 60's...
Posted by: Chris | Aug 7, 2006 12:42:31 AM
http://larval-subjects.blogspot.com/2006/09/interactive-individuation-and.html
Posted by: | Sep 7, 2006 11:01:28 AM
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