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January 23, 2007

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Matt

Shit's fucked up.

I mean, "how terribly undemocratic."

Swifty

I wonder why China would want to destroy the Marxist archive.

http://www.isj.org.uk/index.php4?id=61

AngelaW

Seriously, I don't think PRC has the motivation of doing so. Even talking about online attacks its government has been engaging in, much more threatening objects are out there for them to take care of.

CR

Dunno. I'm taking the marxists.org people's word for it for now. And anyway, I'd guess that the specter of marx would actually be quite threatening to the regime. After all, one the the aspects of Tianamen that never really got through in the west was that a sizable portion of the protestors (not all, of course) were agitating for more, not less, communism in the wake of Deng Xiaoping's "To Get Rich is Glorious" reforms.

If you accept the site's claims that the attacking ip's are chinese, what is your theory about the reason for the DNS attacks? Just independently malevolent hackers? Could be, I suppose...

$

Bastards!

Can we counter-attack with lawsuits, or are going to have to bombard them?

muhahaha

the PRC has:

1. Huge (staggering, by US standards) amounts of connectivity and broadband penetration

2. A major problem with software piracy so that lots of servers or PCs there are likely to be running pirated and insecure software, running on a pirated OS version that, as it is pirated, cannot download security updates

3. Large telco + ISPs that are not exactly noted for a good track record on network security

Those three make for a lethal combination - there's a positive cornucopia of insecure machines in China for script kiddies around the world to dip into.

I wouldn't speculate about "cyberwar!" without thinking a lot more about these factors.

Bob Allen

This is perhaps the most interesting thing I've seen on the Web in awhile-- if these attacks are politically motivated, it makes alot of sense. I have only been a Marxist for about 10 years and I'm outside academia, so my location gives me a certain perspective. In light of the Chinese leadership's purposeful downplaying of "ideology", linked with the potentiality of technical ability to spread their form of Marxist theory worldwide if they wanted to, it now makes sense that Mao was prescient (again). They don't want to. Objective conditions have determined them to be on the capitalist road, big time, and they don't want any interruptions.
Now, it could be that the server attacks are a result of technical aberrations as one poster suggests. I sense that the MIA staff are no dummies, however paranoia strikes deep even in the most rarified intellectual circles when it comes to Marxism. On the whole , I think the attacks are probably politically motivated. Call it an educated guess.

muhahaha

These are good:

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=3553

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:THpjhVtrIsUJ:www.istar.upenn.edu/research/JSTAR%2520Article%2520-%2520Daniel%2520Asen.pdf+prc+hacking&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=8

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