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Good Magazine: Philanthropic Condescension, Teacher Salaries, and Truthiness

I subscribe to a lot of magazines, sometimes just for the hell of it. I have a long standing interest in the genre... And many of them don't cost very much. So I signed up for Good Magazine after I took a look at the first issue. This was especially easy since, remarkably, 100 percent of the cost would be donated to a charity of my choice... No lose situation... What the hell, right...

Good is a strange bird, but one fully in sync with the times. Here's the editorial statement:

We see a growing number of people tied together not by age, career, background, or circumstance, but by a shared interest. This revolves around a passion for potential mixed with fierce pragmatism and creative engagement. We sum all this up as the sensibility of giving a damn. But to shorten it, let's call it GOOD. We're here to push this movement and cover its realization.

While so much of today's media is taking up our space, dumbing us down, and impeding our productivity, GOOD exists to add value. Through a print magazine, feature and documentary films, original multimedia content and local events, GOOD is providing a platform for the ideas, people, and businesses that are driving change in the world.

The word "business" sticks in the craw a bit, but who cares, right? Sounds like a good idea, even if the statement doesn't inspire much confidence as far as a predictor of hard-hitting content. One imagines post-partisan up-beatness, neo-liberalism restrung as greenish good will plus tech innovation etc...

But looking back, I probably should have seen what was coming up the pike. I was shocked today when I opened up the newest issue arrived and I flipped through to the following infographic feature at the center of the magazine. (Please excuse the poor scans - hopefully you'll be able to make them out... Click to enlarge....)

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I nearly choked on my dinner when I saw this page, which is a state by state chart of how much higher the average school teacher salary (well, not quite... wait for a second) is than the average "white-collar, nonsales employee" in the US. So we're not even talking teachers vs. proles and farmers here. This is teachers vs. executives, managers, administrators, (nonsales) service and clerical workers.

The numbers are shocking. The average teacher in Connecticut makes 43.1% more than the average white collar worker? In New York, it's 37.7%. Vermont, 53.9% And in Florida, we're talking a whopping 65.2%. Teachers must stock the upper-echelons of the upper-middle class, giving doctors and lawyers and corporate vice presidents a run for their money! Wow! We're not even talking college teachers here - just plain old high school, middle, and elementary school instructors.

Of course, this is just so much bullshit. The first clue is the lead name in the list of sources for the infographic. That's right, the good old Manhattan Institute, an organization renowned for its slippery use of statistical analysis - a Scaife and Olin funded right-wing think tank in the classical mold pledged to "develop and disseminate new ideas that foster greater economic choice and individual responsibility."

So what is the trick of the MI study upon which the Good pages are based? The oldest and silliest trick in the book when it comes to knocking teacher pay: the comparisons are based on hourly earnings rather than yearly salaries. So, because of the summer and other breaks, as well as the short formalized work day (8-2 or 9-3 clock in and out), yeah, obviously teachers' rate of pay looks ridiculously impressive. Basically, when presented this way, the average teacher in the US, who actually makes $47,674, is factored as making the equivalent of something like $57,000 per annum.

Which of course they don't make. They make $47,000 per year. The Manhattan Institute explains their deceptive method in the following way:

One of the significant benefits available to public school teachers is that they work fewer weeks per year. Teachers can use that time to be with family, to engage in activities that they enjoy, or to earn additional money from other employment. Whether teachers use those free weeks to make additional money or simply to enjoy their time off, that time is worth money and cannot simply be ignored when comparing earnings. The appropriate way to compare earnings in this circumstance is to focus on hourly rates.

Um, sure. This is true. But let's be clear. School teachers are not going to, as a rule, find work during the summer months (and mid-semester breaks, for god's sake) that compensates them at the same (ridiculously high - that's the point, right?) level. Anyone who has been a Ph.D. candidate in need of summer cash can tell you that the summer temporary work options generally include, what, landscaping, summer camp counselor, barista, lifeguard, supermarket bagging - all minimum or in some cases subminimum wage type positions. Over the summer, one might expect to pull in, oh, $1500 or so before taxes. Of course, teachers can "be with family" or "engage in activities they enjoy," sure. More likely, teachers do some of that type of thing and a lot of class preparatory groundwork, etc. But the one thing they can't do is go into cost-reductive hibernation for the summer months, abandoning rent, mortgage, car payments, eating, and the like. The cost of living runs on a, yes, twelve month cycle. The salaries, yes, are for a twelve month cycle. In casual parlance, it's usually called a year, and there is no option to stay alive and hungry only during a fractional part of it.

OK. Well and good. The MI study is dishonest, cherry-picking a set of data to work with that paints an inaccurate picture of the situation. But we expect that of the good folk at the Manhattan Institute. Still, why didn't I just write a post arguing with the MI? Why bother with Good?

I bother with Good because they dishonestly made things even worse. Take a look back at the scans above. While the Manhattan Institute paper is careful to ground its claims in the proper nomenclature - they are careful to at every point describe the comparison as one of mean hourly earnings, which is the right word for the numbers compared - in the Good graphs the comparison is erroneously stated as one of salaries. "CT 43.1% above avg worker's salary." No one, speaking proper English, uses the word "salary" to denote an hourly wage or hourly earnings, or really anything other than the total amount of money one is paid for a job over the course of an entire year. (Just in case anyone is unclear on this point, take a look at what comes up when you search for the phrase hourly salary on Google - a whole bunch of calculators for converting your yearly salary into an hourly wage.) This error on Good's part smacks of hyperbolic, inflationary dishonesty. Far fewer of its readers would be all that stunned to learn that teachers have a relatively high rate of pay per hour - the graph is only provocative because it suggests that the yearly salaries of teachers is that much higher than other white collar workers.

I imagine the reaction of the average reader would be something like Holy crap! Teachers make that much money and they don't even have to work summers!!!! Overpaid bastards!!!! Which is exactly not the case. The word salary, in other words, allows Good to score twice against teachers for a single strike...

I'm sure the reaction of Good would be that this was a fact-checking error, a non-intentional slip. But of course it isn't - the proper language is right there for them to take from the MI piece, and the fact is salary sensationalizes the piece, makes it seem provocative and convincing in a way that mean hourly earnings does not. You can hear the number crunching, the figure forcing in the latter - the former seems to be clear as day, a simple calculation.

So why would the good folks at Good play the truthiness game? Why would they take up this issue, which seems a bit distant from the overall focus of the magazine, in the first place? Go take a look at some of the press on the founder, and I think the picture starts to clear up a little bit, especially in regard to his family foundation's investment in teaching entrepreneurship in the schools. (Hint: public sector teaching jobs are not very entrepreneurial... But privatized, deunionized schools, well, that would be a different story... Hell, while we're at it, why not scrap the whatever shreds of public sector infrastructure are left in the world, as tech savvy scions of media capitalists with their checkbooks + 25-40s with their green and good intentions (organic eats etc) would do a far better job at this whole taking care of poor folks than the... You get the point.)

It's a shame, really. The magazine, in general, seems like a partly noble gesture. But it is hard to see how this infographic jives at all with these philanthropic intentions. (Even if schoolteachers were overpaid, which they of course aren't, not by a longshot, this is an issue that Good thinks is worthy of attention, among all the other very grave problems there are in the world?) And above all else, we suffer from far too much bullshit in the realm of politics and popular sociology, far too much fact bending and bad faith argumentation, which makes this sort of thing, in the end, truly unforgivable.

By CR | April 3, 2007 in Fables, Fashionable Nonesense, Hogwash, Neoliberalism | Permalink

Comments

I like this article. I have been perusing your site for a while and find all sorts of neat stuff about these things, continental philosophy, etc....thanks guys!!!

I like your analysis of the statistics in the magazine...but the thing that get's me is that in my part of the country (KS 40+ percent better ;) that kind of salary is good...really good. (but, the county I live in have a average household income of 80k)

I know hundreds of people who make a pittance compared to the salaries shown here...but like all government agencies (I work for another, the tax man) these rates are in steps and grades, meaning you get a raise every year, you get a bonus for having higher degrees (MA, Ph.d = 6,000; 5000 more per annum) and so forth...

the kicker is, wait for it....the school district is one of the only jobs left with a pension, and in KS it is pretty fair (take your age, plus the number of years worked until you reach 85 total; i.e. start at 25, work 30 years, then you are 55 (+30) = 85...and they give you 80% base salary (plus SS kicks in at 65) which ain't bad....


pooring over the nations 1040s for the last few weeks have really put things in perspective for me...(though I don't have any clue how someone in NYC or SF can live on 25k per year...but they do)

now, with adjuncts (in my beloved humanities) making the crap pay they do, without tenure or benifits...I can see why dealing with the youngins and staying away from the McUniversity is a more pleasant situation for most people....

I love teachers, my dear ol mum is a teacher...of course they could stand to be paid more...but anything over 100$ per day is not bad, anywhere in the world....

thanks again guys, great site

Jake

Posted by: Jake B | Apr 3, 2007 7:51:50 PM

In reality teachers, at least when beginning, tend to work 13-hour days plus weekends (at least in my observations).

Posted by: Matt | Apr 3, 2007 8:53:12 PM

Hell, at this point in my career I'd be thrilled to be paid by the hour. I worked nine hours last weekend, and the only way of cutting it back to three or four per weekend is to work thirteen hours per weekday. Not all teachers do this, and I know it will get better as time goes on. But all good teachers I know put in time at home, time over breaks, and time during the summer.

Of course, it really all depends on what kind of teachers we want. Do we want to attract those who feel that their skills and hard work will be rewarded in their profession, or do we want to attract those (usually business/criminal justice) who are psyched that they get paid something to slowly work their way through five (or so) seasons of "Friends"/"Law and Order" interspersed with the occasional "Collage About Me?" And how long will those of us who are smart and work our tushes off stay in a job where the DVD lackey in the next room gets paid the same as us?

A little resentful, I know. I'm tired.

Posted by: Stephanie | Apr 3, 2007 9:08:46 PM

Jake,

Thanks for the comment, and the compliments. But I don't understand what you mean here:

I like your analysis of the statistics in the magazine...but the thing that get's me is that in my part of the country (KS 40+ percent better ;) that kind of salary is good...really good. (but, the county I live in have a average household income of 80k)

How is the $39 K salary in Kansas both really good and at the same time just under half of the the average household income where you live? Seems like it's not so much "really good" as "just slightly below average."

but anything over 100$ per day is not bad, anywhere in the world

Really? That works out to $25,000 per annum or so. For school teachers?

Posted by: CR | Apr 3, 2007 10:41:08 PM

I agree with your main point about "salary," and agree the original article is a bit deceptive. But it strikes me that, in general, school teachers are the biggest bunch of whiners on the planet. Having all summer off and still making a living wage is arguably a lot better than working all year and making a better-than living wage. And teachers' average yearly salary you cite is a lot better than the salary of many. Teachers insist on comparing themselves with doctors and lawyers, who need more training (doctors need a LOT more), thus they always cry poverty. I agree they need more money, but I disagree that they are disproportionately screwed and they always want to be compared with people who have to work a full year.

I don't know where you get the 1500 gross over a summer, if you work three months that's about 125 bucks a week, or (full-time) 3.13 per hour...

Posted by: CBR | Apr 3, 2007 11:15:27 PM

If you follow Thomas Frank, he likes to refer to the place in Kansas where I live as "Cupcake Land"...this is quadrant of Kansas City where the demographics are more white, richer, (sub)urban than the rest of the state (strangely enough KC is still by and large segregated, go figure). For men working outside, logistics, office work, and some semi-skilled labour in the area the people I know are lucky to earn around 40k. In that sense, the teachers salaries are in check with the rest of the economy. The only thing that irks me I guess is that we don't really know, is a teacher on salary or a straight forward contract? If salary, I suppose the standard business notion (that you don't stay 8 hours, you stay as long as needs be) that pertains to "salary work" applies, and working more than the 8 hours, like 13, as the other poster mentioned, is kinda incompatible with these standard notions of salary v wage...how would you reconcile that issue? (If I were on a contract, and couldn't accompish my work in the paid time, I'd be pretty pissed)

My other comment was merely a tip of the hat to the rest of the world outside of N.America and Europe that must work for so much less...One of my associates is a prof in Romania who had to work for free for a year, and after that was given 200 USD per month and still considers himself a "boyar" of sorts (not that that status or the money does him any good buying plane tickets, gas, electronics or any of the other global commodities) Even my friends outside the US who have tech jobs are pleased with 1000 per month...

Starting salaries for teachers are 124$ per contract day for about 180 contract days.

So, indeed, the teaching salary is on par with the averages for the rest of the local economy here (how a teacher manages anywhere else in New England or the West Coast is a mystery to me - given the obscence prices for such basic things), plus tenure, raises, job security, etc...it is not a bad gig. I just think of all the other god awful jobs out there (one of which I presently have the joy of keeping) and it puts it in perspective for me...all the government jobs have their perks.

I spoke with another prof at a conference, he was Czech, and when I told him I did not think I would end up an academic he was shocked because there it is a position of prestige, given respect, and generally appreciated...

If we could give teachers and university profs any more rewards, I think status and respect would be as good as money...

I'd love to see a little story from the other commenters about the best, worst, most memorable teacher they've had....anyone game?

here's mine: High School Chemistry...the teacher was a athletics coach, devout born again christian (again, remember the evolution in schools thing in Kansas too ;), and would read us "Chicken Soup for the Soul" before class began....apparently the periodic table of elements represented only an operative definition of truth...a complete disservice to the whole scientific profession if you ask me....

like I said, looking at the nations' 1040s all day long is depressing...and being in the middle, with the teachers, isn't all that bad (500 dollar deduction for school supplies...don't forget to itemize!)...

Ciao!
Jake

Posted by: Jake B | Apr 3, 2007 11:32:15 PM

CR, I think that you've been suckered. The magazine looks like it's very much on the Tech Central Station model -- right-wing propaganda surrounded by enough innocuous material so that it is credible as a magazine. So, yes, they're willing to give your subscription money to the charity of your choice (at least for the first year) because their funding is elsewhere; they'd probably pay you to read it if that wouldn't compromise its appearance as a normal magazine.

I'm not going to bother to investigate their funding, but just from reading their editorial statement, I'd guess it's the same as TCS or Cato -- a veneer of libertarianism covering various business interests. (What the hell is a "passion for potential"? But the "impeding our productivity" / "add value" pair should be the giveaway that this was written by the equivalent of one of Trump's buzzword-spouting reality show competition teams on The Apprentice trying to meet a 3 hour deadline with material that they barely understand.)

So why is this filed under neoliberalism? Is conservatism no longer supposed to even exist?

Posted by: Rich Puchalsky | Apr 4, 2007 9:52:57 AM

Rich,

You're right about everything, yes. I had no great expectations for the magazine - I read and subscribe to a lot of junk - but this spread took the "philanthropic activism" to a very dark place.

Their funding, from what I can tell, comes from the family foundation itself, rather than the stuff that fuels Cato.

So why is this filed under neoliberalism? Is conservatism no longer supposed to even exist?

Good point. But aren't they, as far as this goes, the same thing? By neoliberalism, don't we largely been conservativism wrapped up in jazzy new clothes? Isn't this the blur between "compassionate conservativism" and neoliberalism that pissed so many people off heading into the 2000 election etc?

To the previous commenters:

I'll try to have more to say forever, but the question is why more talented people like yourselves don't go into teaching, given what an easy ride it is held to be for the money and perks...

Having all summer off and still making a living wage is arguably a lot better than working all year and making a better-than living wage.

"Arguably"? Are you arguing with your feet? Are you considering a job as a school teacher? If not, why not?

Posted by: CR | Apr 4, 2007 12:40:19 PM

I am considering a job as a university professor. I don't want to teach children because I don't think it seems like fun. I know a lot of teachers, and am very close friends with one who has a great life because he has a lot of time off, but doesn't make a great wage when one considers he has three mouths to feed other than his own. He makes around 42K, and he feeds them all, but that isn't a great salary. But when you factor in the time off--he even has most Fridays off--it's pretty good. I don't really understand what it proves whether I am going to be a school-teacher or not.

Posted by: CBR | Apr 4, 2007 2:05:00 PM

I guess that I have always been confused about the difference between neoliberalism and jazzed-up conservatism. I thought that the difference was supposed to be that neoliberalism operated from a position of "the market is a positive good" while conservatism, jazzed-up or not, was all about maintaining a stable system of social classes. (Even "compassionate conservatism" implies that there is one group being compassionate about another group.) US-libertarianism (which is very different from European libertarianism) is like neoliberalism but with an added set of individualist beliefs about social liberalism, most of which serves to substitute for any genuinely radical destruction-through-market program of neoliberalism -- in other words, libertarians tend to be more conservative than neoliberals, not less.

In this case, as with all anti-school-teacher articles, I'd characterize it as conservative. Neoliberals generally believe that an educated populace is necessary for capitalist development. Conservatives generally seize on any attack that would result in the lower classes being more ignorant.

As a liberal myself (left-liberal, though it annoys me to have to write it that way), I dislike the tendency to treat everything from social democrats through the radical right as neoliberal. People seem to start out with a concept of "the neoliberal world order" or something, and then say that every major political party in the countries involved is indistinguisheably neoliberal.

Posted by: Rich Puchalsky | Apr 4, 2007 2:10:04 PM

I'll get back to CBR in a little bit, when I have more time, but for now Rich:

Sure. I guess I just read the article as a strike in the direction of market valuation vs. unionized worker wage protection. When I think neoliberalism, I think "rising tide lifts all boats" but then it continues on to "and the best way to ensure that those boats lift freely is through privatization, dismantling the public sector, the marketization of labor, individual vs. collective negotiation, etc... Less governmentality, less collective bargaining / collectivization of goods, more market-based solutions..."

That's what makes it "neo-liberal" to me. I know what you mean by the over use of that term. But for me, it is synonymous with "marketization." And that is what is in play in this article. The Invisible Hand, as it were, has been tied behind society's back when it comes to teachers.

In short, I get the sense that the subtext of the piece is that the fact that (public) schools are run by the governments / unions, that a market distortion has taken place. We could get more bang for our buck (or more bang for less bucks) if schools were staffed on some other principle.

I mean, what "GOOD" action do you think the magazine and /or the MI wants to come of this study?

Do you see what I mean?

Posted by: CR | Apr 4, 2007 2:23:48 PM

I haven't read the article, CR, but from your scans I note that they compare teacher salaries to "Police" and "Fire". Police and fire personnel are just as union-organized and public-sector in the U.S. as teachers are. Therefore, this seemed like more of an attack on teachers as such, less of a general attack on unionization/public sector employment.

Posted by: Rich Puchalsky | Apr 4, 2007 3:06:58 PM

Yes, the cops and firemen. But doesn't the public ($34/hr) vs. private ($21/hr) distinction listed there pull back in my direction? The private school teachers, GOOD seems implicitly to suggest, are making the "right" amount of money. It is only (again, implicitly) the public teachers that dramatically tip the scales.

Posted by: CR | Apr 5, 2007 11:10:15 AM

...because working in the public system, with all its undiagnosed learning disorder students or simply left behinds, with its constant anxiety-producing exercises always about meeting "standards" or risking the loss of funding (as if, you know, they were ever adequately funded in the first) is such a damn delight...

Posted by: Matt | Apr 5, 2007 6:56:00 PM

(I'm not a teacher, just an observer of one, and if that makes me both a whiner and a snob then so be it.)

Posted by: Matt | Apr 5, 2007 7:00:00 PM

CR, this is an excellent post. You should write a letter to the magazine, tell them you're thinking of dropping your subscription, maybe they'll print a clarifying statement or retraction.

CBR, you think _schoolteachers_ are whiners but you want to teach at a university?! Sir or Ma'am, if whiners bug you you'd be better off with schoolteachers as colleagues. Seriously.

Unless of course you're in a program that sits at the high end of the academic labor market, in which case you should do just fine, landing a tenure-then-academic-management position in which your "the teachers are whiners" attitude will serve you well in firing adjuncts and cutting their salaries.

Jake B, not all government jobs have perks, depending on how you define "government jobs." In 2003 in Missouri and in Michigan semi-public (also semi-private) home health care workers got around minimum wage and no benefits. Service workers in facilities for the developmentally disabled in Illinois got about $7 or $8 an hour. Any perks which did develop were the result of unionization, not anything inherent in that kind of job or having a government agency for an employer - the same is true for teachers. Also, my understanding is that teachers are paid hourly wages but the hours counted as work don't include prep time and grading. Say a teacher gets one free class period a day generally for prep and grading, and a lunch break. That's not enough time to prepare lessons and grade homework, especially depending on the standards for adequate class preparation and feedback on homework. This is is why newer teachers work longer hours - they're writing lesson plans, learning to grade more efficiently, etc. The uncompensated hours start to drop over time, but I think there's an aspect of this which is really hard to eliminate from the job. I don't think it's technically a violation of wage and hour regulations, because teachers (at least sort of) do it voluntarily - if they only worked the time their paid then the quality of teaching would drop.

Only tangentially related - I was at the Organizing of American Historians conference recently, where I heard a panel on privatization and health care service workers. One of the audience members was a high school history teacher from Chicago. There was much discussion of the difference between public employees in health care and in education. The former (or rather, unions of the former) have generally taken a tack of appealing to patient care, saying "better pay and conditions for us will equal better care for you and your loved ones." This message generally resonates with people who here it. Teachers (or, their unions) have generally either not pursued this line of argument, or haven't succeeded. The guy from Chicago said that this is relevant to a lot of debate right now in the Chicago teachers union about this and about charter schools, which are growing massively and are unorganized - one group in the union says "we need to preserve what we have and that means halting privatization, no more charter schools." The other group says "let's organize the charter schools and thereby take the incentive out of privatization." Whichever side wins (hopefully the latter) would be well served to try and articulate a message of "teachers' interests are students and parents' interests."

take care,
Nate

Posted by: Nate | Apr 6, 2007 2:22:00 PM

"Teachers are whiners" doesn't mean I don't like them, or that I don't want them as colleagues. It means that they like to promote the image of themselves as the most underpaid, underappreciated segment of American society, and rarely acknowledge the fact that they make decent enough money to have a huge chink of the year off and still eat---a dream gig, in many people's eyes. I already acknowledged that they deserve more money, that's not the point. The point is that the hype surrounding how bad teachers have it is way out of proportion to the facts, comparatively considered--and yes, per hour is a meaningful stat, even if it leads GOOD to unwarranted conclusions--hence leading me to conclude that they are whiners (or just PR geniuses!).

Posted by: CBR | Apr 6, 2007 9:48:01 PM

It means that they like to promote the image of themselves as the most underpaid, underappreciated segment of American society, and rarely acknowledge the fact that they make decent enough money to have a huge chink of the year off and still eat---a dream gig, in many people's eyes.

No, see - this is exactly the point. You are embodying what is sadly the typical American attitude toward collective labor demands. Any sort of agitation instantly gets countered with "what? you don't think others have it rough? you don't think I have it rough?" There is a letter to the editor in my local paper every two or three days saying, in so many words, what you are saying. "Unionized workforce X wants to keep their pension. Well guess what? I don't have a pension. I eat dog food and self-medicate with generic tylenol. Fuck unionized workforce X!"

Your attitude is an attitude that hurries along a race to the bottom. Resentment toward groups of still decently paid worker - if that is even the case here - gets everyone absolutely nowhere.

Posted by: CR | Apr 6, 2007 11:52:07 PM

I agree with everything you say, except the fact that it characterizes anything I said. What I said was that teachers deserve more money--in other words, in a any concrete struggle of teachers for better pay, I fully support them. What I object to is the general characterization of teachers as having it so rough, in general, in comparison to the rest of the workforce. Your turning my comment into a vague instantiation of a general attitude does nothing to promote clarity, and simply points to the fact that it's difficult to refute my substantive points--teachers, who need only one year of graduate school as opposed to three for lawyers and (I don't know, but it's a lot) for doctors, should probably not compare themselves to those professions but to something more commensurable--accoutants or something? Or even the higher echelons of blue collar workers. Be that as it may, most teachers make a decent wage when computed by the hour, and they have scads of time off. Many people would love to give up a chunk of their yearly salary for that much time off. But whereas I know teachers honest enough to admit this, they seem to be in the minority--most disingenuously insinuate that they spend all summer preparing for class or speciously compare themselves to professionals who work 60 hours a week year-round. The fact is, the reality of being a teacher is not well-conveyed by the hype one hears from teachers about it.

Naturally, the side of my argument that characterizes how teachers present themselves is entirely anecdotal, and if you want to object to that side I'm willing to listen. But I cannot be convinced that making 47g while having 4 months off is not in many ways a screaming deal.

Posted by: CBR | Apr 7, 2007 11:31:42 AM

Teachers should probably not compare themselves to those professions but to something more commensurable, even the higher echelons of blue collar workers....making 47g while having 4 months off is...in many ways a screaming deal.

Still, there's a difference between guarding against sensational cliché and exaggerating to make the point. Presumably recent trends in national educational priorities ought to color one's own framing priorities (need they be listed? adjunct exploitation, privatization, standardization - in short the many cynical, increasingly corporate-driven policies designed precisely to maintain inequalities if not encourage outright failure in already disadvantaged quarters, thereby justifying leaving even more behind, etc.–a different issue from how teachers present themselves as victims, but surely they're related.)

As for your "47g with four months off" and blue collar comparison: let's say that I make roughly as much doing custom woodwork as my partner Stephanie (commenting above) does with a degree plus 4 years experience teaching highschool French, after taxes. That is to say, maybe she makes 35 but pays 10 in taxes, mandatory retirement account (down the drain, unless you stay X years), social security...which suggests to me that, in general, the degree work and experience, not to mention choice to serve a public (as opposed to paying) community, are not really that rewarded. Not to mention, yes, the extra time (good) teaching requires, particularly when starting out in some new place, as teachers often do. Of course many embark the PhD meanwhile, in order to simultaneously pursue their own autonomous study (without which, arguably, culture and literature would themselves be dead), to work non-bureaucratically in stolen moments when they can; any way you look at it there seem few easy rides (smart capitalists of course get a real estate license or join whatever short-term planet destroying hasn't busted yet, or are simply born into one tax-payer welfared industry or another, and maybe run for political office when they're bored just with the money).

(In a perfect world we'd all fish in the morning, read in the afternoon and blog in the evening.)

Posted by: Matt | Apr 7, 2007 4:16:37 PM

So, has anyone from "GOOD" responded?

Posted by: EZJJ | Apr 8, 2007 5:12:16 AM

No. At least no one who currently works there.

Posted by: CR | Apr 8, 2007 1:43:40 PM

hi CBR,
Maybe the teachers you've met are mostly whiners and the ones I've met have fair grievances. I dunno. I've never met anyone who says anything remotely resembling "teachers are the most underpaid, underappreciated segment of American society." I've met people, teachers and nonteachers, who say "teachers don't get paid enough given how much they work both in time and in intensity, and given the importance of the work they do." The claim here is simply that teachers should paid more, which we both agree on. And actually, most teachers I've met are less concerned about getting higher pay than they are about getting adequate staffing and resources for the schools, which would lead to less unpaid time and less intensity of work (nurses tend to have similar demands in my experience). That's just anecdotal of course, one way to really check would be to review demands made by in contract negotiations. It does seem to me that CR is right that GOOD's framing is an anti-union move, to paint teachers as highly paid and therefore not needing unions. In this sense, you're dead right that teachers shouldn't be compared to professionals - who generally aren't organized - but to other unionized workers.
take care,
Nate

Posted by: Nate | Apr 8, 2007 9:57:49 PM

Nate,

You may be well right about this, clearly the issue about whether teachers are whiners or sober-minded workers with reasonable demands cannot be settled relying merely on our impressions. Oh well...

Posted by: CBR | Apr 9, 2007 9:13:05 AM

Oh let's have more whining, really. Class sizes under 37 students, say just about a third of that would be a start.

CR: heh. Too modest.

Posted by: Matt | Apr 9, 2007 8:05:40 PM

If you're interested in the demands of teachers, read the union (NEA) mag. Some of it has to do with higher wages, especially for bus drivers and support staff who frequently do not make anything resembling a living wage--but it's true that it has more to do with what can be done to make things better at school, which improves life for kids and teachers alike. Having enough special ed teachers and reasonable sized classes are just the beginning of the demands.

It's true that there is an image of teachers being whiners, saying that they're the least appreciated, most underpaid, etc. If this really were a teacher mantra, then I'd have to agree that teachers are whiners. Although it's sometimes necessary for NEA's lobbyists to say such things in order to raise enough hell to get us raises, it's not a sentiment I hear in conversation among teachers. Although my colleagues and I would like to be paid more, most teachers I know, although they don't feel appreciated, don't think they are the absolute worst off. What I have heard colleagues say, in a low voice, with guilty eyes, is that they're looking at some engineering positions, and I have known people who have taken those jobs, to be replaced by folks with less knowledge and experience. And several comments have already made the obvious point--if teaching's such a sweet gig, then the teacher shortage is all just imaginary, right?

But seriously, let's take a look at how the wages breakdown hourly, because that's what really counts, right? My sweetheart's housemate, as it happens, just quit teaching to become a firefighter and now finds that she has so much time on her hands that she doesn't know what to do with herself (and she wasn't down with the 13 hour teaching days, maybe only like 9.) The awesome thing about firefighting is that you get paid to sit around and watch TV, or read, or cook gourmet meals, or whatever, and then every so often you have to go off and, well, work. And then you get three days off in a row. Not bad, huh? Maybe that's why I haven't heard anything about how there's a massive firefighter shortage.

Please don't misunderstand me--I think that firefighters, police officers, and the like are worth every penny they're paid and more. But if you're going to break it down into hourly wages, be honest. If what the housemate says is right, firefighters work about five hours for every 24 they get paid, whereas I work 40 for every 24 hours I get paid. Not that anyone's counting. (I do sound like a whiner, don't I? Well, GOOD magazine started it...)

Posted by: Stephanie | Apr 9, 2007 8:56:57 PM

One more thing. It's true that doctors get a lot more schooling than most teachers. It's also true that you only need a high school diploma to be a firefighter or a cop, the professions with which GOOD magazine choose to pair and compare teaching, whereas teachers need at least four years of college, and more and more districts are requiring Master's degrees. My Master's program took fifteen months with little vacation, plus the writing of a 200 page thing once classes were done, which took me six months (while waitressing.)

So to what profession should we compare teachers? Maybe I'm ignorant about what it takes to be an accountant, but it seems to me that selling an audience of thirty clients at a time something that most of them don't want, getting them to risk (and experience) embarassment and failure daily, mixed in with much encouragement and some success, and still somehow raise their self-awareness, self-esteem, and critical thinking skills--and then justify all your choices in the face of irate parents and national test results--it seems to me that this might be a little harder than crunching numbers. Might require more thought, effort, and skill.

So to what profession can we aptly compare teachers? That folks find it necessary to compare them at all speaks to the fact that those who've never done it simply can't fathom what's involved in it. The things listed above aren't concrete actions, like "arresting someone," or "doing open heart surgery," so people with little imagination wonder just what it is we do all day. I think that teachers want, more than anything, credit for being professionals, for doing a job for which it's worth being paid well--and to be paid well, and attract more good ones to the profession and keep the good ones we've got.

Posted by: Stephanie | Apr 9, 2007 9:49:13 PM

I don't think that the amount-of-schooling argument holds water. My wife went back to nannying instead of pursuing an MA in early childhood education after she worked a while in a Headstart and found out that she would make as much with the MA as she already did as a nanny. And if one looks at wages of newly minted PhDs in the humanities vs lawyers and doctors, the schooling to money translation breaks down.

If the argument is not "schooling translates into higher pay" but rather "schooling _should_ translate into higher pay" I don't find that particularly compelling either but I'm happy to agree to disagree.

Stephanie I enjoyed your comments. I like to compare teachers to nurses and to the construction trades, because both of those require a specialized education and are sometimes unionized. I think the comparison to nonunionized professionals invites problems.

take care,
Nate

Posted by: Nate | Apr 13, 2007 2:01:12 AM

Here's a link a friend sent me about university teacher salaries -
http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/news/story/0,,2053201,00.html

Posted by: Nate | Apr 13, 2007 11:48:45 AM

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