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seizing upon or neglecting possibilities

Section 4 of the Introduction to Being and Time contains a lot of preliminary characterizations of Da-sein that will be filled out later.

First Heidegger links up the terminology of Da-sein to human being. "As ways in which human beings behave, sciences have this being's (the human being's) kind of being.  We are defining this being terminologically as Da-sein. / Wissenschaften haben als Verhaltungen des Menschen die Seinsart dieses Seienden (Mensch).  Dieses Seiende fassen wir terminologisch als Dasein"

Next he claims that "Scientific research is neither the sole nor the most immediate kind of being of this being that is possible. / Wissenschaftliche Forschung ist nicht die einzige und nicht die nächste mögliche Seinsart dieses Seienden."

Scientific research is one way of being.  One conclusion we can draw, it seems, is that there are many kinds of being.  One kind of being is realized in scientific research, another kind weekends with your aging parents, and yet another kind of being deployed as a youth counselor at a Christian summer camp.  The notion that human beings play many different roles is is talked about in other disciplines. Georg Simmel's Web of Group Affiliations explained the emergence of individuality, of the phenomenon of 'self,' as the intersection of a plurality of roles that had no center or unifying motif other than the presence in each of them of this one thing, namely the individual itself. In each of my activities I deploy a certain kind of being.  It's really quite different how things work, what I and others around me are expected to do, all the way down to what gestures or tones of voice are used, when I work as an insurance agent as compared to life in my church or on weekends with the parents.  For Simmel, it's not that I take the same 'I' with me to each activity and then find a way to accommodate that to the discrete environments I encounter; rather my sense of being an 'I' is produced by the psychological fact that I do the various roles in my life, but the agent or carrier of these different roles, since it participates in all of them, cannot be reduced to each separate activity as adult son, insurance agent, or pathetic blogger.  We interpret this remainder, with plenty of help from institutions, as an 'I,' a subject' that is present in all manifestations but not reducible to them.  The richness of this essay by Simmel is certainly not conveyed here and if you haven't come across it before, I recommend it.

But Heidegger's interest is not in showing how a normal, common-sense notion of individuality, identity, and personhood is produced indirectly by Dasein's variety.  Heidegger takes the reflexive nature of Dasein as granted, as established.  He's not interested, here, in a historical or sociological account of where this reflexivity comes from.  Nor is he going to be interested in Fichte's efforts to establish the self and its reflexivity ontologically via the transition from Absolute being to finite being, and the concomitant positing of an other outside of me, outside of the Absolute, thus establishing my finitude, since I no longer contain the other now outside me, thus allowing finite being to become self-conscious of itself as a specific being.

And so: when Heidegger describes Dasein to us in these pages is he talking about something universal?  Something that transcends all that boring history?  Or is he a European philosopher and he's talking about European 'man' as things stand circa 1927?

Da-sein is a being that does not simply occur among other beings.  Rather it is ontically distinguished by the fact that in its being this being is concerned about its very being.  Thus it is constitutive of the being of Da-sein to have, in its very being, a relation of being to this being. And this in turn means that Da-sein understands itself in its being in some way and with some explicitness.  It is proper to this being that it be disclosed to itself with and through its being.   Understanding of being is itself a determination of being of Da-sein.  The ontic distinction of Da-sein lies in the fact that it is ontological.  (Section 4)
Das Dasein ist ein Seiendes, das nicht nur unter anderem Seienden vorkommt. Es ist vielmehr dadurch ontisch ausgezeichnet, daß es diesem Seienden in seinem Sein um dieses Sein selbst geht.  Zu dieser Seinsverfassung des Daseins gehört aber dann, daß es in seinem Sein zu diesem Sein ein Seinsverhältnis hat. Und dies wiederum besagt: Dasein versteht sich in irgendeiner Weise und Ausdrücklichkeit in seinem Sein. Diesem Seienden eignet, daß mit and durch sein Sein dieses ihm selbst erschlossen ist. Seinsverständnis ist selbst eine Seinsbestimmtheit des Daseins.  Die ontische Auszeichnung des Daseins liegt darin, daß es ontologisch ist.

But we're not to think, are we, that this Dasein is equivalent to our normal notion of a human subject?  Scientific research is one kind of being, being a bureaucrat in an office environment is another.  Heidegger's not trying to unite these different expressions of being.  He's not trying to get to the Absolute through the particular; the finite.  And so when he says that "it is constitutive of the being of Da-sein to have, in its very being, a relation of being to this being," he's not referring to the kind of self-relation that produces a subject.  It's just that when you look at all kinds of being, you see that "this being is concerned about its very being." Or am I completely wrong and Heidegger is indeed talking to us about the production of a modern, European, subject-object nihilist decadent Thomas Mann Death In Venice Buddenbrooks Magic Mountain kind of guy?

Thomas Mann's Magic Mountain / Der Zauberberg comes out in 1924. Young, impressionable, naive Hans has trained as an engineer, but he has no "calling" for it, the way Max Weber says you are supposed to.  He just kind of wanders into it in default mode.  But then he visits his cousin in the rest home for sick people up in the mountain – where everyone has pretty much stopped working, what with being so sick and all.  As young Hans puts it: "the dying are to be treated as though in enjoyment of a permanent birthday."  The problem is, however, that tuberculosis is such a chronic disease!  You can live with it for a long time! Why you probably can't ever really be said to get better! The moment one returns to "the world below" as it is called, complete remissions are transformed into sudden recurrences that send one back up to the "magic mountain." After more or less willing himself to be sick so he wouldn't have to go back to pointless land as an engineer, Hans interacts with some stock characters that represent different strands of European thinking. Settembrini is an Italian humanist.  By an accident of historical fate, I first read this book when Guido Sarducci was doing his hilarious imitation of an Italian preist on Saturday Night Live (you know, when it was still good, not like today, where they don't know from funny), and I have never been able to shake the picture of Guido Sarducci's character when reading Settembrini's speeches in Magic Mountain.  Settembrini is a product of the Italian Risorgimento – Italy, you know, became a European nation (if it ever did; this is disputed in Italy) quite late, in 1870.  Thus a more old-fashioned Enlightenment thinking, proud of reason and nationalist lived on for a while longer. Naphta's nihilism and skepticism about Enlightenment rationalism forms the counterpoint to Settembrini, and Hans flirts with one view, then another, but basically is a poor receptacle for such elevated discourse.  (And I have always thought that Mann's ability to include serious philosophic discussion in a novel like this was a sign of his greatness as a writer.)

Hans is second or third or fourth generation bourgeois in a capitalist and world economic revolution that's already being going on for a while. "Inheriting" a certain kind of spirit is thought to be crucial for the reproduction of society.  Joseph Schumpeter in Capitalism, Socialism, Democracy provides one version of what happens when this 'spirit' flags, and of course Max Weber in Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism provides another.&Onbsp; Hans does not have that spirit!  Think of Hans and the argument from Weber and Schumpeter in the context of this passage:

Da-sein always understands itself in terms of its existence, in terms of its possibility to be itself or not to be itself.  Da-sein has either chosen these possibilities itself, stumbled upon them, or in each instance already grown up into them.  Existence is decided only by each Da-sein itself in the manner of seizing upon or neglecting such possibilities. / Das Dasein versteht sich selbst immer aus seiner Existenz, einer Möglichkeit seiner selbst, es selbst oder nicht es selbst zu sein.  Diese Möglichkeiten hat das Dasein entweder selbst gewählt, oder es ist in sie hineingeraten oder je schon darin aufgewachsen. (Section 4)

Here I start running into a problem. "Da-sein . . . understands itself . . . in terms of its possibility to be itself or not to be itself."

What does 'itself' mean here?  What does it mean for Da-sein to "be itself"? Has our protagonist from The Magic Mountain, Hans Castorp, chosen to be himself by refusing to seriously enter the engineering profession and spending his time playing sick at the sanitorium, or has he chosen not to be himself?

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I find this series of posts a little strange, but I suppose sorting out *Being and Time* is probably about as wise a use of the medium as possible.

It is sometimes said that "Dasein" does not really represent subjectivity at all, and I think you can make a strong case from later writings glossing *Being and Time* (esp. *Contributions to Philosophy*) that Heidegger didn't really intend to make it such in the first place. He there talks about "the Dasein in man" as a kind of achievement, the sort of achievement we might normally describe as a rational awareness of the world -- an intermediate stage between myth and "future history". This is not a "new" doctrine, but presented as the correct interpretation of what Heidegger was already saying. Furthermore, Heidegger is quite clear at many places that he (rightly or wrongly) thinks of the "anthropological" factors of what man is, e.g. fancy and ritual, as irrelevant to this.

But in *B&T* he really is "trying to get to the Absolute through the particular", because he is trying to delineate what "being" could be, not relative to a worldview describing the constituents of the external world, but as a concept essentially bound up on human life without being "subject-dependent". "Time as the horizon of being", with Heidegger's sense of "horizon" as limitative, means being is nowhere temporality is not. So the resulting picture of being is like conceptual role semantics in analytic philosophy: being "is" whatever occupies the central space in our time-based thought of the world. Now, in *Being and Time* he sometimes asserts the further principle, which you allude to, that a kind of being, Dasein, is directly (but not transparently) accessible to us: so part of our handle on being in general is knowing our way through Dasein, which is in its moods and thoughts a type of that very being, not merely "phenomenal".

This seems to me dubiously consistent, and not very much turns on it in the text. But it does offer a little room for considering "subjectivity" as others conceive of it: and in *Basic Problems of Phenomenology* Heidegger does connect this to a passage from a work of modern literature, Rilke's *Notebooks of Malte Laurids Brigge*. As for Mann, it is commonly said that Naptha is based on Georg Lukacs, and Slavoj Zizek says somewhere that there is evidence Heidegger read Lukacs' *History and Class Consciousness*. I think Zizek probably just made a cock-up based on the presence of a concept from Theodor Lipps, "history of literature as a history of problems", in works by both writers: and I don't think it is profitable to try to compare Lukacs and Heidegger in the absence of a connection deeper than both having some German higher education. But Heidegger was almost certainly a conscious enemy of Simmelian thought about the self. Simmel would be something like the personification of *das Man*, purveying insubstantial pseudo-learning to the distracted masses of the metropole.

I don't see why the writings of an apostle of subjectivity like Simmel (or Walter Benjamin) could be grounded in "fundamental ontology", or why it would be necessary. Hans is not "becoming what he is" (one of two references to Nietzsche in B&T) by dilly-dallying, so I suppose he's not being authentic -- but that seems like a bad way to view the cultural-political choice between Mann and Heidegger.

Posted by: Jeff Rubard | Apr 16, 2007 6:04:01 PM

I think the other Nietzsche reference is something about "becoming too old for one's victories", then.

There is a book on Lukacs and Heidegger, called (appropriately enough) "Lukacs and Heidegger: Towards a New Philosophy" by Lucien Goldmann. I haven't read it, so I don't know if it's fruitless or not.

I don't think we can look at someone's choices and stamp them authentic or inauthentic. Of course, we can venture a guess based on what we see of another's behaviour.

Dasein is not a subject; something like subjectivity is possible on the basis of Dasein, which is a WAY of being. We had a whole thread about this, more or less, recently.

Anyway, I think the question as to whether Dasein represents a historical moment or something universal is interesting. I would be cautious about taking the later Heidegger's reading of SZ at face value. I think there are reason's to read SZ as transcendental philosophy, in a certain sense. On the other hand, clearly it's place in Heidegger's ouevre and in the history of philosophy comes to be seen, by Heidegger, as an expression of a particular epochal opening. the Beitrage and other later work perhaps tries to liberate "Dasein" from that a bit. I think what is pivotal in this regard is the essay "On the Essence of Truth." There, Heidegger hyphenates "Da-sein" at a key point in the essay, and the hyphenated version seems to denote mortal openness to the sending of being, which HAS to remain trans-historical for Heidegger, even if it is as content-poor as possible. So "Da-sein" would designate a site of openness that probably can't be parsed out into "existentials." The hyphen would indicate the otherness of the sending, so that if Dasein (like Dasein in SZ) "is" the clearing, this is not a statement of identity but an affirmation of Da-sein's ecstatic character. This, by the way, is why Joan Stambaugh's hyphenating "Da-sein" in Being and Time is unfortunate.

Posted by: CBR | Apr 16, 2007 6:50:47 PM

Jeff Rubard writes:

I find this series of posts a little strange, but I suppose sorting out *Being and Time* is probably about as wise a use of the medium as possible.
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I think it's a little strange too. Maybe it won't be useful. I think of that guy David Plotz over at Slate who is being working away with great steadiness on the Bible.

Jeff Rubard: "It is sometimes said that "Dasein" does not really represent subjectivity at all, and I think you can make a strong case from later writings glossing *Being and Time* (esp. *Contributions to Philosophy*) that Heidegger didn't really intend to make it such in the first place."
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My problem is that Heidegger describes features of Dasein that sound like ones familiar from a description of a subject -- it's hard not to notice the similarity. Fichte for instance: "Activity that reverts into itself in general (I-hood, subjectivity) is the mark of a rational being" (Foundations of Natural Right ed. Frederick Neuhouser, Cambridge, p. 18.) No doubt, that's not the same as saying "Dasein is a being that does not simply occur among other beings. Rather it is ontically distinguished by the fact that in its being this being is concerned about its very being. Thus it is constitutive of the being of Dasein to have, in its very being, a relation of being to this being." It is perhaps a different kind of reflective activity, a different characterization of it. But he's not speaking of something that we're not familiar with -- lots of people are clear on the uniqueness of humans relative to other entities in the universe. We can experience a very deep and complex sense of shame. I'm not saying no animal ever manifested some shame, but we're capable of worrying about ourselves to such an extent that it seems right to say that we humans are "ontically distinguished by the fact that . . . this being is concerned about its very being." I think a lot of people would be able to recognize themselves in the descriptions provided by Fichte and Heidegger (once freed from anti-philosophic prejudice, of course). "Yes, we are like that. Heidegger's right: it is constitutive of our being that that we have a relation of being to this being. We're ontic -- ontologically. Well said. Quite so."

Also, on Lukacs and Heidegger, here's a bit from an article. From Paul Breines, "Young Lukacs, Old Lukacs, New Lukacs," Journal of Modern History 51 (September 1979): 533-546. Lucien Goldmann, according to Breines, wrote an Afterword to his study of Kant "in which Goldmann suggests that Heidegger's Being and Time (1927) not only emerged from the same intellectual milieu as History and Class Consciousness, namely, from the pre-World War I southwest German neo-Kantian schools of Heidelberg and Freiburg, but that Heidegger's book was in important respects a response to Lukacs's, seeking to transpose the latter's historical concepts of reification, false consciousness, and class consciousness back into transhistorical attributes of a human essence (Dasein, authenticity, and so forth)."

Posted by: Swifty | Apr 16, 2007 10:08:40 PM

Swifty, is it possible for you to say more about the connection with Weber? As I understand Weber, he isn't making the claim that all "pursuits" are "callings" or "vocations," rather the claim seems to me that "greatness" (in science or politics) requires a "calling." I don't get the sense from Heidegger that he is talking about "greatness" in quite the same way.

Posted by: Craig | Apr 16, 2007 10:54:14 PM

Adorno's comment was that Dasein is the Fichtean Absolute Ego decapitated, (an apparent allusion to the French Revolution chapter of PhG, in which the Terror is figured as the unmitigated contest between Fichtean Absolute Egos). But, of course, Adorno wanted to see Heidegger as a kind of ueber-idealist, rather than as attempting, sucessfully or not, to break out of idealism.

The difference with Fichte would be that Heidegger is not conducting a transcendental reflection upon knowledge, such that it's a difference both of the level at which the reflection occurs or is "pitched" and the aim of the reflection. By declaring Dasein as at once ontic and ontological, and by explaining that in terms of Daseins's Being being at issue for it in its mode of Being, such that, since Dasein must already have a pre-thetic understanding of its Being, it thereby has a pre-thetic understanding of Being, Heidegger is helping himself to a kind of basic identity condition by which access to his field of inquiry can be assured. This is then unfolded through successive hermeneutic circlings unfolding the existential structure of Dasein as Being-in-the-World, through the thrown projection of which the pre-reflective existence of Dasein is reflected upon. But the aim was to get from the "fundamental ontology" of Dasein to the question of Being itself, and hence to the ontological difference between Being and the Being of beings, which never quite happened because the final part was never written or, at least, published. So the difference is that Heidegger was attempting to use the features of reflexivity to break out of the circle of reflective thinking. How's it go? "To use the strength of the subject to break out of the illusion of constitutive subjectivity"?

I read that Goldman lecture a long time ago. He points out that the phrase "reification of consciousness" occurs in quotes in the introductory remarks of 'Being and Time" and aside from drawing out some parallels with Lukacs, mostly just conducts an external Marxist critique of Heidegger as an authoritarian elitist. Not untrue, but not the most illuminating take. Still, it's not implausible that Heidegger would have read Lukacs. Schmitt read him in 1921 and Benjamin in 1924 just before writing his "Trauspiel" study and HorkHeimer, Adorno, and the like all cottoned on to the book, so it was something Weimar intellectuals were reading. Heidegger always identifies Marx as an offshoot of Hegel, which wasn't commonly construed before Lukacs and Korsch, so it's not unlikely he took his reading from there, rather than pouring over the "German Ideology", the "Manifesto" and Vol.1, eh?

Posted by: john c. halasz | Apr 17, 2007 3:06:37 AM


AS Carnap realized, Heideggerian Being seems placed outside the sovereignity of logic and empirical science. In a real sense, statements about "Dasein" are, if not meaningless, equivalent to statements about infinity (yet Dasein does not appear to be a numerical infinite) or God, or Descartes' Res Cogitans (tho' Descartes does the reader a courtesy by arguing for his "subject"). Carnap criticizes Heidegger for a certain sort of idolatry, and for proceeding from mystical or "noumenal" assumptions (which Kant himself doubted could be proven). This grounding in noumenal Being is fundamentally opposed to the empiricism and economic-materialist foundation of say Hobbes and Locke (tho' that is not to say that Hobbes' ideas on sovereignity, following the contractural material are completely admirable, or that Lockean sensationism is great across the board).

As the German Ideology and Capital indicate, Marx follows Hobbes-Locke-Smithian economic-materialist tradition (tho' marxists have for decades denied that), with some traces of Hegelian dialectic (de-geisted that is) and rejects any a priori, noumenal being or subject---. Heidegger's real ancestor is Descartes (Hobbes' nemesis, of course), and the pre-socratics (but whether MH read the greeks correctly is another matter), with some traces of the theological; Heidegger thus stands in opposition to economic-materialism, to entitlement, and really to progressive ideals. (And in terms of, er, frat-boy fascism Nietzschean naturalism quite superior)

Posted by: Pozo | Apr 17, 2007 9:45:21 AM

Dasein is not a subject; something like subjectivity is possible on the basis of Dasein, which is a WAY of being.

That seems to be the correct reading--it is an error to interpret Dasein in terms of humanism or psychology, as it would be to read Hegelian Geist (spirit, the absolute) in terms of humanism or psychology; Dasein relates to the pre-socratic Being of say Parmenides or Heraclitus (however some have argued Heidegger misreads Heraclitus as mystic, and does not attend to Heraclitus' more physical, empirical aspects---of course Heraclitus, like his descendent Hegel, was concerned with temporality, becoming, impermanence---Heidegger seems closer to the Parmenidean mystic-stasis......). Which is to say, Heidegger manages to botch the few interesting speculations (even secular aspects) of Hegel......

Posted by: Pozo | Apr 17, 2007 11:48:19 AM

I rather like this format myself.

The discussion seems to be developing towards seeing the early Heidegger as transcendental in aim insofar as the process of hermeneutic bootstrapping in which Dasein is led by the structure of its engagement with the world towards the horizon of this engagement is cognate with the Fichtean-Hegelian narrative of self-consciousness as the grit from which the pearl of absolute knowledge is cultivated. (Give or take some quibbles re temporality etc.)

All good clean fun of course, and i think Swifty's right to identify the fact of self-reversion or self-consciousness in the background of this account. Just to revert to the previous Dasein=subject? thread which CBR mentioned, though, we need to not jump to conclusions. It seems to me that the key move in the tradition is not simply to point to the fact of self-reversion but to make of it a stage in an ontological argument (in SZ's terms a categorial ontology) seeking to define certain kinds of entity. (Random examples 1) when Sartre uses it to prove that the pour-soi is a lack w.r.t. positive being 2) Proclus that the soul is immaterial.) So SZ-as-transcendental-philosophy would go beyond / behind this in refusing to put Dasein's 'having its being to be' to work in the factory of categorial ontologies. (As i said before i still see a place for 'subjectivity' here if not 'the subject', but i won't reiterate.)

Posted by: tl | Apr 17, 2007 4:52:56 PM

Craig writes: Swifty, is it possible for you to say more about the connection with Weber? As I understand Weber, he isn't making the claim that all "pursuits" are "callings" or "vocations," rather the claim seems to me that "greatness" (in science or politics) requires a "calling." I don't get the sense from Heidegger that he is talking about "greatness" in quite the same way.
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Yes, but pursuits that are not callings or that degrade as callings are experienced as existentially unsatisfying even by non-heroes. Greatness often requires a calling but so, too, does showing up for work every day, behaving professionally and so on. But then a kind of generational degradation occurs, not too dissimilar to the one discussed in Plato's Republic. The first generation of a new value system is geuinely called. They "front load" the new value system; constantly keeping it in front of their eyes, checking back and forth between it and their actions to make sure the latter strictly conform to the former. They are self-conscious agents of the new value system. Then the second generation comes along and they are trained 'in' the new value system but are not themselves 'of' it; they act according to but not from duty. They treat the value system as an unquestioned assumption; they live and work in the unquestioned afterglow of the original calling. And this is a big debate for those who wish to rule: which is better, for the people to be self-conscious carriers of a value system, so that they themselves are able to act as the well-trained guardian-dogs that Plato refers to, protecting, with their self-conscious rigor, the new value system; or is it better to work with a people whose obedience to a new value system is secured by deeply ingrained, but relatively unthought, habit? The unthinking habit crowd is less trouble in one sense, but fidelity to the value system could drift.

The French Revolutionaries were in favor of educating a people that was explicitly self-conscious about its values. The Preamble to the 1789 Declaration reads "The representatives of the French people, organized as a national assembly, considering that ignorance, neglect, and scorn of the rights of man are the sole causes of public misfortunes and of corruption of governments, have resolved to display in a solemn declaration the natural, inalienable, and sacred rights of man, so that this declaration, constantly in the presence of all members of society, will continually remind them of their rights and their duties; in order that the acts of the legislative power and those of the executive power may constantly be compared with the aim of every political institution and may accordingly be more respected; in order that the demands of the citizens, founded henceforth upon simple and incontestable principles, may always be directed towards the maintenance of the constitution and the welfare of all."

In China Mao's claim, anyway, was that the revolutionary spirit of the Chinese people and the Communist Party itself was waning as 'normal times' settled in and economic development became the dominant task. To reignite this spirit, Mao launched the Cultural Revolution, 1966-76. What Mao said, anyway, was that he wanted to "continue the revolution under the dictatorship of the proletariat," exactly what Stalin had failed to do. Once socialism is established and the original revolutionary spirit dies down, everyone starts just living their lives, paying lip service to socialism and communist theory, but really just producing a party elite that rules over the rest of the country, which in turn encourages unthinking obedience so their control over the country remains unquestioned. Mao's response to this was "bombard the headquarters!," by which he meant, the Communist Party itself. Liu Schao Chi, at one time Mao's successor-designate, was demonized as the representative of the Soviet model of development and kicked out of the party. But this issue is by no means restricted to communists. I take it that Schumpeter, in Capitalism, Socialism, and Democracy is making a similar point. So too Weber in Protestant Ethic and Spirit of Capitalism.

But then, to get back to the generational point, the real problem comes in with the third and fourth generation of a new value system. Their parents maintain an unthinking allegiance to the tenets of the new value system, which makes them obedient, but because it is unthinking, they are poor teachers of the young. The third or fourth generation looks around and says "Why, Father, are you going to work every day so uncomplainingly but seemingly pointlessly? What god is it you serve so faithfully?" The kid doesn't get a satisfactory response; vague phrases about duty and morality are unconvincingly recited – can drug use and rock music be far behind?

Plato in the Republic gives us a sense of the transition between generations when he talks about "the type of character which answers to timocracy."

"Such an one will despise riches only when he is young; but as he gets older he will be more and more attracted to them, because he has a piece of the avaricious nature in him, and is not single-minded towards virtue, having lost his best guardian.

"Who was that? said Adeimantus.

"Philosophy, I said, tempered with music, who comes and takes up her abode in a man, and is the only saviour of his virtue throughout life.

"Good, he said.

"Such, I said, is the timocratical youth, and he is like the timocratical State.

"Exactly.

"His origin is as follows:--He is often the young son of a brave father, who dwells in an ill-governed city, of which he declines the honours and offices, and will not go to law, or exert himself in any way, but is ready to waive his rights in order that he may escape trouble.

"And how does the son come into being?

"The character of the son begins to develop when he hears his mother complaining that her husband has no place in the government, of which the consequence is that she has no precedence among other women. Further, when she sees her husband not very eager about money, and instead of battling and railing in the law courts or assembly, taking whatever happens to him quietly; and when she observes that his thoughts always center in himself, while he treats her with very considerable indifference, she is annoyed, and says to her son that his father is only half a man and far too easy-going: adding all the other complaints about her own ill-treatment which women are so fond of rehearsing.

"Yes, said Adeimantus, they give us plenty of them, and their complaints are so like themselves.

"And you know, I said, that the old servants also, who are supposed to be attached to the family, from time to time talk privately in the same strain to the son; and if they see any one who owes money to his father, or is wronging him in any way, and he fails to prosecute them, they tell the youth that when he grows up he must retaliate upon people of this sort, and be more of a man than his father. He has only to walk abroad and he hears and sees the same sort of thing: those who do their own business in the city are called simpletons, and held in no esteem, while the busy-bodies are honoured and applauded. The result is that the young man, hearing and seeing all these things -- hearing, too, the words of his father, and having a nearer view of his way of life, and making comparisons of him and others -- is drawn opposite ways: while his father is watering and nourishing the rational principle in his soul, the others are encouraging the passionate and appetitive; and he being not originally of a bad nature, but having kept bad company, is at last brought by their joint influence to a middle point, and gives up the kingdom which is within him to the middle principle of contentiousness and passion, and becomes arrogant and ambitious.

"You seem to me to have described his origin perfectly."

See also Weber, Economy and Society, 24-31.

Posted by: Swifty | Apr 21, 2007 1:37:18 PM

From Die Götzen-Dämmerung - Twilight of the Idols.


Friedrich Nietzsche [ 1895 ]


""""With the highest respect, I exclude the name of Heraclitus. When the rest of the philosophic crowd rejected the testimony of the senses because it showed multiplicity and change, he rejected their testimony because it represented things as if they had permanence and unity. Heraclitus too did the senses an injustice. They lie neither in the way the Eleatics believed, nor as he believed — they do not lie at all. What we make of their testimony, that alone introduces lies; for example, the lie of unity, the lie of thinghood, of substance, of permanence. "Reason" is the reason we falsify the testimony of the senses. Insofar as the senses show becoming, passing away, and change, they do not lie. But Heraclitus will remain eternally right with his assertion that being is an empty fiction. The "apparent" world is the only one: the "true" world is merely added by a lie.

Right the F. on, Herr Doktor N. So much for Dasein.

Posted by: Pozo | Apr 21, 2007 4:51:32 PM

Good stuff there, on the ensuing generations, and thanks for the excerpt from the Republic. I think I've been through several manifestations of several parts of it today, once I got outside. I wonder if that 'middle point' is necessarily always contentious and arrogant, because to some degree that sort of father is hard to admire; he may be less true than he thinks, and something of what his wife criticizes him for. Of course, imagining another 'middle point' is not the point, but it seemed logical that the 'bad company' and the previous 'not bad nature' may be more balanced and have more to offer than the polarized 'rational' and 'bad'. In any case, I'm sunk, as the passionate and appetitive are not things I'm capable of overlooking, but do not think they necessarily lead to the throwing away of 'the kingdom within me' (I always like it when the Greeks talk like the Bible). I haven't reread the Republic for some years, so this is of interest, but by now most have been exposed as 'wanting money' as well as protecting that kingdom within. Even some of those meek fathers aren't very sympathetic unless somebody else takes care of the budget, so they can get on with their 'scholarly readings.' Reminds me of the first in the 'Apu Trilogy', 'Pather Panchali', in which there is just this kind of talk about a father who has not had enough ambition although he is a good man and devoted to his family, etc., but at some point, there is then talk of 'making something of oneself', I can't remember if it's the mother or someone else, but that father is considered to have failed.

The generational dissolution is like the same process that happens much faster when citizens are in solidarity with something, as WWII or 9/11, when Americans were united in that old-fashioned way. With Iraq, we were given a demonstration of how quickly this degenerates, because the stupidity of the Iraq War did exactly such degeneration itself. We always long for something of those times, because afterward, when they seem more 'peaceful', they also seem so mediocre and full of laziness, frivolity and paltriness.

Posted by: patrick | Apr 21, 2007 6:44:05 PM

Swifty, thanks for the considered reply. There are appears to be at least two different uses of "vocation" or "calling" in Weber's work - the first, as you indicate, is found in The Protestant Ethic and the other is found in his late "political" speeches; notable "Politics as a Vocation" and "Science as a Vocation." In the speeches, there is definitely a sense of "greatness" to his meaning of "calling" or "vocation." The heroism of the everyday would be but making a virtue out of necessity - going to work at a coffee shop or as an elementary school teacher or for the severely depressed just to manage to get out of bed is most certainly not what he means in this context. I wonder, however, about the earlier use of "vocation" and "calling" in The Protestant Ethic - certainly, a virtue is being made out of everyday necessity, but isn't there a chance of the exceptional and normal coinciding? The "calling" he speaks of in this essay is very much tied up with salvation.

Posted by: Craig | Apr 22, 2007 4:49:37 PM

Um..., it's important to recognize that for Heidegger the inauthenticity of the "they" is prior to authenticity. Authenticity is seized upon in the anxious experience of nothingness in being-toward-death and in response to the soundless, contentless "voice" of conscience as resoluteness, whereby one retrieves and re-projects the possibilities of one's existence from one's thrownness in terms of the temporal horizons or ekstases of one's existence, (and in terms of retrieving/repeating the more authentic possibilities of one's historical tradition within the field of one's historical generation). But authenticity is a modification within and of inauthenticity, rather than a abolition and replacement of inauthenticity. As a consequence, if authenticity, as a resolute holding to one's utmost possibilities of existence in the necessity of decisive choosing among possibilities, is "heroic", it is also "tragic", in that the relation between authenticity and inauthenticity tends to slide and switch places: authenticity, by its very "nature" or constitution, tends toward its own levelling, and must always be "won" anew. And that would accord with the temporality of human existence and the historical change in its possibilities, just as the projection of one's own death, while singular, is not dateable. Dasein always and only exists as sheer potentiality-for-being, even as it is "necessarily" thrown among factical possibilities in the world, in the movement of transcending/being-transcended of its existence in the world. As a result, Dasein can never pass over into the actualization of its possibilities, but always just remains the site or place in which any actualization of factical possibilities in and of the world occurs, is received and related to.

Posted by: john c. halasz | Apr 22, 2007 7:17:14 PM

That's it in a nutshell, John Halasz. That's a great post, and it frames in yet another way my contention that
Dasein is not subjectivity...Dasein is a continual movement of dispossession. As inauthentic, Dasein is dispossessed because it lives outside itself in the They. Here, Dasein is homeless because it thinks it's at home. As authentic, Dasein is dispossessed because the identity it has built up shatters against the reality of Dassein as finite temporalizing, as you say its existing as pure possibility. Here, Dasein is at home in its homelessness, which simply means that it accepts itself as possibility and as a continual movement of dispossession. On the basis of this, subject-positions become possible for the human being, but Dasein itself is never a subject.

Sorry, tl, I'm not trying to beat a dead horse, I just thought this was an interesting way to frame it...

Posted by: CBR | Apr 23, 2007 10:01:52 AM

Pozo writes: "subjective mental events or processes, even ones as sublime as authenticity or the experience of Dasein , cannot be objectively confirmed, or falsified (how is it disproven??);"

Well then so much the worse for objective confirmation, no? Because we do have these sublime moments of authenticity and of inauthenticity, correct? We can't falsify a mood, but we still have moods.

Halasz writes: "authenticity, by its very 'nature' or constitution, tends toward its own levelling, and must always be 'won' anew" [end Halasz excerpt]

'Calling' (Beruf) and 'authenticity' (Eigentlichkeit) goes together, perhaps. We can introduce another term from Weber here: the charismatic authority. Charisma, like authenticity, is perishable.

Halasz also writes: it's important to recognize that for Heidegger the inauthenticity of the "they" is prior to authenticity. [end Halasz]

But Heidegger says: And because Dasein is in each case essentially its own possibility, it can, in its very Being, 'choose' itself and win itself; it can also lose itself and never win itself; or only 'seem' to do so. But only insofar as it is essentially something which can be authentic – that is, something of its own – can it have lost itself and not yet won itself. As modes of Being, authenticity and inauthenticity . . . are both grounded in the fact that any Dasein whatsoever is characterized by mineness. (BT 9)
Und weil Dasein wesenhaft je seine Möglichkeit ist, kann dieses Seiende in seinem Sein sich selbst "wählen", gewinnen, es kann sich verlieren, bzw, nie und nur "scheinbar" gewinnen. Verloren haben kann es sich nur und noch nicht sich gewonnen haben kann es nur, sofern es seinem Wesen nach mögliches eigentliches, das heißt sich zueigen ist. Die beiden Seinsmodi der Eigentlichkeit und Uneigentlichkeit -- diese Ausdrücke sind im strengen Wortsinne terminologisch gewählt -- gründen darin, daß Dasein überhaupt durch Jemeinigkeit bestimmt ist.

When Heidegger says that "only insofar as it is essentially something which can be authentic – that is, something of its own – can it have lost itself and not yet won itself" isn't he giving authenticity priority? Doesn't this passage at least point to equiprimordality of the two kinds of being?

Posted by: Swifty | Apr 23, 2007 12:15:13 PM

>>>When Heidegger says that "only insofar as it is essentially something which can be authentic – that is, something of its own – can it have lost itself and not yet won itself" isn't he giving authenticity priority? Doesn't this passage at least point to equiprimordality of the two kinds of being?>>

Actually, H says in section 27 that authenticity is an existentiell modification of Das Man, and in section 64 that Das Man is an existentiell modification of authenticity. So much the worse for his architectonic, such as it is, but I think some further remarks are warranted. First, this is partially due to an inconsistency in the way Heidegger uses "Eigentlichkeit"--on the one hand, it refers to existential temporality, on the other to Dasein's embrace of its existential temporality. In the former sense, Das Man modifies authenticity exiestentielly, because authentic finite temporality IS the movement of Dasein. On the other hand, we are always already inauthentic; embracing our Dasein only comes out of our absorption and fallenness. So authenticity would be an existentiell modification of Das Man. So this isn't JUST a terminological inconsistency, but is structurally necessary--on the other hand, the wording might have been adjusted to make it less confusing if H was on the stick. Still, compare SZ to the 1st Critique and it comes off looking pretty darn consistent....for what that's worth...

Posted by: CBR | Apr 23, 2007 3:22:04 PM

Uh oh, they're armed with the text. Better jump out the window or something. What do I know? I'm just Castorp-ish. But, er, doesn't "equiprimordial" mean something like compossible? And, uh, isn't one of the core claims that Dasein is both ontic and ontological, while the core aim is to elucidate the ontological structure of Dasein, so that the emphasis on authenticity belongs to the elucidation of ontological structure, which is the sense of its "priority", while the ontic condition of inauthenticity is the means of access to the elucidation, hence is "prior" both in time and actuality/existence,- (context of discovery vs. justification),- so that the "founded" must always subsist together with the "founding"?

Posted by: john c. halasz | Apr 23, 2007 10:21:04 PM

>>>And, uh, isn't one of the core claims that Dasein is both ontic and ontological, while the core aim is to elucidate the ontological structure of Dasein, so that the emphasis on authenticity belongs to the elucidation of ontological structure, which is the sense of its "priority", while the ontic condition of inauthenticity is the means of access to the elucidation, hence is "prior" both in time and actuality/existence,- (context of discovery vs. justification),- so that the "founded" must always subsist together with the "founding"?>>>

And, uh, isn't that basically what I said?

Posted by: CBR | Apr 23, 2007 11:41:26 PM

Pozo,
What's the citation for that Nietzsche quote if you don't mind? It's great.
Nate

Posted by: Nate | Apr 25, 2007 12:06:44 AM

Pozo writes: "Pozo asked a somewhat serious question regarding Heidegger's reading (or possible misreading, or xtian reading) of Heraclitus, and heard nothing.)"

Quite sure I'm not competent to respond but the 'being' Nietzsche is rejecting and the 'being' Heidegger is talking about are not the same thing. Precisely the onto-theological notion of being which places true being up in heaven where, as Jesus Christ tells us, moths and rust are kept out, and thieves do not break in (Matthew 6:19) is the one that Heidegger is rejecting.

Posted by: Swifty | Apr 25, 2007 2:08:03 PM

Oy vey, Pozo! Much confusion there. Heidegger's notion of "Being" is more-or-less hatched out of Husserl's notion of "horizon", the background against and through which an object or phenomenon appears: noesis = subject/thought/meaning-intention, noema = object/phenomenon/meaning-intended, and horizon = the background of the intentional correlation through which phenomena appear more-or-less as they are. "Being" then is the background of meaning-horizons through which beings or existents appear more-or-less as what they are, and is not something other than that process of appearings. "Being" is not something, any thing, but is sheer background, which is why it is that that nothing that nothings is the "veil" of Being, as Being "gives" beings. That Being conceals itself in revealing itself in the "giving" of beings is basically an artefact of the phenomenological apparatus/method: analysis can only thematize one aspect of the intentional-correlation at a time, either noesis, noema or horizon. In other words, if one thematizes "Being", one is focusing on the process by which beings are "given", which always disappears into the meanings of the beings that are "given", insofar as that is precisely what Being "gives", else there's no "point" to Being. There's no sense here of a transcendent, extra-worldly realm of "essences"; it's entirely a matter of the phenomenological study of "appearances" in the world. The only sense of "transcendent" that applies is the sense of "objectively real", as opposed to subjectively immanent, insofar as phenomena pertain or refer to their existence in a real world. As to "Dasein", as that being characterized fundamentally in its being by its relation to Being, Dasein always only exists as its mode of being, which goes back to the original Greek sense of "bios", which means not "life", but "way of life". Dasein is only "fairly immaterial", insofar as meanings as disclosive of beings can not be reduced purely to terms of physical or material reference (Carnap). Otherwise, the whole set-up is very "physicalistic", indeed. There's no denial of "bio-economic realism"; there's only a refusal to prolong such terms of thinking beyond the sorts of claims that they can sustain.

Posted by: john c. halasz | Apr 25, 2007 5:12:00 PM

"Dasein remains a troublesome creature: it doesn't refer to something in the world"

Damn straight! 'Cause it's Being-in-the-World, that creature for whom there is a world. Er, which it's in. Um, which means it's available to receive structures of reference.

"There is no Being without the understanding of Being". Which is not to say that there are no existents otherwise. The issue here is understanding,- (of possibilities of meaning),- 'cause if something is meaningless, it's not capable of being true or false, but is simply senseless. And the claim is that Being is and must be always interpreted, er, such that any order of existents is "framed" by meaning, and that such meaning covers over other possible orders of meaning-interpretation,- (which is why Being conceals itself). Which is why the identification of existents with reference fails to yield any "truth",- (and is also why Being can't be identified with any subjective-intentional order of experience or meaning). (Me- I find that Quine is "spooky"; Heidegger at least recognizes his own "spookiness").

Now, to be sure, Heidegger is not the only way to deal with said issues. I myself prefer Wittgenstein, and, if you want to excoriate Heidegger in terms of ethico-materialist issues, Levinas is the way to go, who provides a phenomenology which is at once more "materialist" and, er, more "religious". But to claim, in accordance with logical positivism, that all issues of meaning and norms amount to mere emotional expressions, is, er, too stupid for words.

Posted by: john c. halasz | Apr 25, 2007 10:58:28 PM

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