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Stephen Burt in n+1, Number 4

Excerpted from the symposium on "American Writing Today:"

Whom should more poets follow, or at least contemplate? Again, in poetry: George Herbert, Christopher Smart, pre-1937 W.H. Auden, Basil Bunting, Donald Davie, James K. Baxter, post-1964 Robert Lowell. Among living writers, maybe Thylias Mass, Juan Felipe Herrera, Laura Kasischke, Liz Waldner. In poetry criticism: William Empson, Donald Davie.

What current modes clog the pipeline and tire me out? (1) Quasi-automatic writing and a kind of comic quasi-surrealism, especially when the author wants to be winning, funny, "entertaining," and shocking at the same time. (2) Slack free-verse autobiography; chatty anecdote without interesting form. (3) Endless zeroxes of '50s formalist poems, copies of Anthony Hecht and Howard Nemerov. (4) "Spirituality," which, pursued as a primary goal, tends to make poems sound like bad translations.

Most poets today are writing either for a coterie of readers they know personally, who want to participate in the social circulation of new work (rather than in the rereading of old work), or else (in part) for an academic market in which the more you publish (as long as it's in semiprestigious venues), the more your chances for tenure and promotion.

Both paradigns encourage overproduction. Younger poets, in particular, seem to rush things, to make public ten pounds of cookie dough when, had they waited, they might have had five pounds of tasty cookies. I don't know what any of us can do about that, and for certain poets whose work is supposed to sound "raw" (such as Kasischke and Waldner) that may not even amount to a disadvantage.

Anything you can do 100 times in 100 poems without learning a new trick isn't worth doing more than twice. Sense is harder than nonesense; order is harder than disorder. But, as Stevens said, "A great disorder is an order"; as Dickenson said, "Much madness is divinest sense / To a discerning eye."

Something by Caleb Crain, somewhat less memorable, followed.

By Matt | June 4, 2007 in Afflicting the Comfortable, Guess the tone, Journals, Literary Theory, Poetry, Writers | Permalink

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Yeah, that's quite provocative, isn't it? I have this terrible feeling that he might be referring to a close friend of mine in particular with #1 of what he can do with less of. If so, of course I disagree. But otherwise, yes, a lot of this is right.

From my non-participatory time in the NYC poetry scene, I'd say that, yes, the third paragraph is absolutely true.

Posted by: CR | Jun 5, 2007 1:12:45 AM

The "cookie dough problem" is, nowadays, near-ubiquitous. Filmmakers and novelists likewise fall into their own versions of criticisms 1-4.

Posted by: Dave McDougall | Jun 5, 2007 4:28:55 PM

There's plenty wrong with the world of writing, including this preachy little number. Like any of you get to judge what of our time history will deem great.

Posted by: Cornchops | Jun 6, 2007 1:07:39 PM

Eine reale Frage: was würde Ezra Pound sagen? (etwas mögen, Ansteigen in den Zug, Schweine)

Posted by: Phritz | Jun 7, 2007 11:57:41 AM

Nice machine german, doofus. "something to like..."????

It's "etwas wie" if I remember correctly....

Why don't you just post in languages you actually know...

Posted by: sehr schlecht | Jun 7, 2007 12:11:20 PM

Though this sounds both reasonable and erudite (as is true of Burt in general), one might be concerned that the easy decrying of folks' bad habits these days and championing of sharp but conservative thinkers (Empson, or Burt's paragon Jarrell) risks an implicitly retrograde aesthetic.

One thing that's certain: the account he proposes simply can't capture the best in contemporary anglophone poetry by an emergent generation: Juliana Spahr, Lisa Robertson, Kevin Davies, Shanxing Wang, to name just a Jerry-Garcia-handful. These disparate aesthetics have already exceeded the concepts and categories Burt produces, so redolent of a Seventies nostalgia for the lost moment when poets like Jarrell and Roethke seemed forceful.

Of course, this is good news for poetry, and not surprising news. It does tend, as a shifting and fluid body, to show the limits of aesthetic prescription pretty swiftly.

Posted by: jane | Jun 8, 2007 12:20:30 PM

Thanks for that, jane.

Posted by: Matt | Jun 9, 2007 3:22:15 PM

Should, eh? Still, those are worthy constellations. The problem arises when Burt proposes a Sillimanesque binary of unread sleeper cells and tenure-seekers.

Most of the local poetry communities I'm aware of take nourishment mainly from intensive rereading of old work -- yes, the New American Poetries, but also canonical British and American poets and in most cases French, German, Russian, and Spanish language "old work" are part of the shadow curriculum.

And conversely, I hardly see a pattern of overpublishing on the academic side of Burt's binary, that is, if Lowell is the standard.

The field as it stands doesn't warrant the either/ors even our best critics keep insisting on vending.

Posted by: Jordan | Jul 12, 2007 4:36:29 PM

(1) Quasi-automatic writing and a kind of comic quasi-surrealism, especially when the author wants to be winning, funny, "entertaining," and shocking at the same time.

Gee, this sounds like a near-perfect sort of poetry to me! It also sounds like mine.

Sorry, sir, to be so EPUISANTE!

Nada

Posted by: Nada Gordon | Jul 13, 2007 11:43:26 AM

Poesia now functions generally as a type of welfare for communists, whores, or sentimental catholics..........

Posted by: | Jul 13, 2007 12:35:40 PM

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